Right, because the bright red stream of sadness is totally not noticeable. Also, please tell us more on how to counter CAS. Please, you are a woman of colour and I am listening.
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Bro, u are bad at countering CAS xDDDD
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Then why are you so surprised at the idea that bombs are dropped from thousands of meters?
That’s standard fighter-bomber practice at WW2 brackets.
If you are flying at treetop level at WW2 brackets, that explains why you hate SPAA so much.
I recommend opening the Spitfire Manual I have sent you earlier and study the altitude for approaching, releasing one’s own bomb load, ideal approach angles and altitude for extending out of AAA cone and then retreat altitudes are.
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I strongly disagree. The Pe8 that dropped a 5 ton bomb on me yesterday did it at high altitude, couldn’t see it, way out of range of my team’s useless Skink. The bomb exploded a good 100m from me yet I still died.
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Cause they are not?
SPAAs are comparable to light tanks with autocannons at best (see BMP and other IFVs, etc.). Even then they are slower, bulkier (bigger → easy target), have less armor sometimes (mostly none) and worse ammo (for anti tank purposes). 80% of the times I get shot in an SPAA I am oneshot.
And I haven’t even started with SAM systems that have no way of defending themselves against tanks (see Ozelot er Type 93).
Flying out CAS is most of the time 1 guaranteed kill, if not more. Even if you get shot down, you can still drop your bombs. Happened to me yesterday. Shot down a Corsair, got the kill in the killfeed and it still could drop the bombs and kill me. I did everything right, shot down the aircraft and got punished for it (really cool) and the Corsair got rewarded with a kill for being bad and being shot down. How is that fair?
Hitting a fast jet at distances over 2km is harder than you think. But I don’t expect you to know.
Dodging SPAA (and SAMs) is also quite easy. Especially if you have flares and know what you are doing.
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Because he was for some reason referring to top tier.
I honestly don’t even remember the last time I died to a Pe-8. It’s extremely rare for one to actually make it past CAP. I honestly respect people who manage to do it.
Lol.
They are not slower than most light tanks (unless you’re taking about wheeled light tanks or XM246)
They’re not a smaller target aside from the BMPs
Most of them have thicker armor (Gepard is .50cal proof whilst half the light tanks at that br just get shredded by .50cals
Worse ammo is EASILY countered by 2x guns with more than 5x fire rate
80% of shots resulting in a one shot is very gracious (although you pulled it out of your exhaust pipe) well over 90% of shots fired and taken in any light or medium, at pretty much any BR, is a one shot. Only real exception is engine shots, barrel shots, and HEAT
Gepard 1A2 and Shilka have left the chat
In all seriousness though, early SAMs are some of the most egregious offenders in the game.
Thing are pretty damn simple when y’all don’t intentionally complicate things, a lot of people don’t like pineapples in their pizzas, you repeatedly tell them to eat pineapples, that’s what y’all did. You get your stat pulled because you keep pulling the skill issue card like a troll lol and that’s on you bro
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A better comparison would be a company not selling pineapple on pizza, despite a few people wanting it.
They sell pizzas with pineapples, they refused to add a menu without pineapples, do you see the flaws?
How would the option to buy quattro formaggi pizza would hurt your pineapple pizza consumption?
You might argue everyone would go on to buy four cheese pizza but in that case,
maybe they need to refine the pineapple pizza recipe? Maybe they should use fresh pineapples rather than cheap canned pieces that sat around for years in their juice?
Maybe they should experiment with adding the pineapple slices AFTER baking?
The only argument I’ve seen against TO mode is that “people would stop playing CA mode” and guess what,
if the only reason people play a given mode is the lack of choice then maybe, just maybe…
It’s time to step back and examine what’s wrong with the mode and implement adjustments to either improve its draw or recognize it is a more niche experience and accept that different people like different things.
Imagine if ASB players called for the destruction of air arcade and air realistic to force people to come play our mode because the average person prefers a more casual, lower barrier to enter experience and that is perfectly fine! (I’ll still try to encourage and recruit people to fly, but that’s besides the point.)
The flaw is pineapple pizza is TO mode
Ayo, guys. Main thread not about TO, about how proper SPAA gameplay including player’s skill/knowledge can effect CAS dominance. Gaijin has no interest in another ground mode right now, their main focus is CA. Lets keep that subject in the other CAS Problems thread.
Some people intensely dislike pineapple on pizza, while others enjoy it. For me pineapples make the pizza worse.
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says gaijin?
if everyone stopped spamming “ugh, tank only is SOO 2020” it might get some traction
also when it comes to dead ideas, good SPAA is one of them as proven by every update ever
never seen one.
if youre gracious enough to write some if them here, i might understand what youre talking about
avoiding SPAA as a CAS player is trivial, just wiggle around occasionally.
avoiding pantsir is as easy as launching your AGMs, it will lose lock every time
you can hear nothing. and if you hear anything, youre dead already.
also hiding = no action taken against the enemy so he can easily keep launching with no danger of SPAA
no, its the other way around.
CAS is the pineapple, many dont want it, and everyone is forced to eat it
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Most people don’t like pineapple pizza, which is exactly why it (TO) is just a bad idea
More than anything, im wondering why you keep being so confident with your opinions on CAS as a whole when you literally dont play top tier?
Considering that is where the biggest issues are and is also what everyone talks about
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Then you’re either blind or willfully ignorant
I can still hear planes with a half broken headset and an AC unit 10ft away. You just for some reason prefer getting bombed and complaining on the forums, over actually looking up for once.
Hiding is literally 90% of the gameplay loop. The whole point of Warthinder is spotting and killing an enemy before they spot and kill you.
Who actually cares about top tier at this point? Even without the Su-34 and Su-30, the tank v.s tank combat is just a complete mess.
im not ignorant, im gladly going to hear what everyone has to say about it
if you can hear something 10km away, then i want your headset
its not, and especially not for something that cant hide, like SPAA.
but what actually matters is that CAS shoots f&f missiles while SPAA doesnt, so its a one way fight
idk, probably whoever plays top tier…?
I do remember seeing smoke trail, popping smoke, typing to team and dodged a kh38, but hell why would anyone keep a vid for that. One can’t have that much skill issue to celebrate dodging a cas xD
Should be at a small neitherlands map match as southern team in leo2 a few months ago.