CAS is the problem. Dying to something you cannot do anything against is just bad gameplay. Atleast against vehicles on the ground i can do something with my ground vehicle. But how am i suppost to hit a jet flying at 5km high and just clicking a button to lock me? Then I’m dead in the thing i want to play and everyone just goes “Just play SPAA!” It’s not the thing I want to play or else i would spawn directly in it! And there are alot of games where just no one spawns in an AA at all and everyone just get picked off by jets that need basically no skill to play.
There should just be a ground only mode and if everyone plays than that would just show that most people hate CAS.
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Yea, I have read it. Unfortunately, some some do not care about learning proper P.R.D.F (Positioning, Radar, Deployment, Firing) SPAA gameplay and are purely bias or excessively demanding TO modes to the devs similar to how karens behave regardless how much proof, evidence, screenshots, videos, stats is shown that CAS can be dealt with properly in the other threads. It’s literally just a learning curve as you said, a skill gained from doing it so much it becomes easier and easier. Doesn’t always have to be a SPAA but any vehicle with Mg’s or Proxy rounds is also capable.
Glad that 47% of the voters agree that PRDF would helped a lot in many situations.
Sounds like you want CAS to be exclusively for cheap kills.
It’s not baffling. TO is simply a bad idea.
Countering CAS is easy. It’s just that CAS haters prefer to complain on the forums abt CAS, rather than learn to counter it.
Lol.
Lmao, even.
It it literally the best idea that every sensible person expects to have in this game for over 10 years.
The only people who don’t like it are people who need cas to be good in game, aka “cas mains”
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Pretty much everything I expected from a CAS hater reply.
calling “cas hater” a dude who intentionally only plays ru tech tree to spam yak9k or su34 is wild.
Get real
Constantly spamming CAS hate, but your not a CAS hater cuz you play two specific Russian overpowered CAS planes.
Baseball, huh?
Wanting to have TO gamemode is not cas hate, stop being so fragile.
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That’s just jealousy. You’re just angry that “air players get a mode without player ground units”. The problem is, this argument is meaningless! Nobody would play SPAA in a massive air map. This is obviously different to air players in ground mode.
Your entire argument is built on jealousy and hate. There is no logic to your words other than “I hate CAS players and want them to suffer”. Not that I expected more from CAS haters.
I still think having heavy bombers dropping 5000lb (2.2 dam ton!!!) bombs as a CAS role is ridiculous. This guy blew me up from a bomb hit 100m away from me.
Its a tank game…
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This is true, but it fails to address some of the reasons why most people don’t get better at it.
Current state of SPAA in the game is ass for most tech trees other than one nation, who has some of the best CAS platforms and weapons.
In almost every situation SPAA is markedly inferior to even a -1.0 BR fighter to dealing with enemy aircraft, and many nations SPAA has either been developed excessively handicapped or nerfed into obsolescence with changes like making smokeless motors smoke, IRRCM that doesn’t work, missiles not getting proper seeker modes, arbitrary and excessive G limiting etc.
It’s kind of like HESH. Originally it worked pretty well and was deadly. Now it’s a joke.
I have SPAAs up to 3.8 air KD yet I don’t play them anymore because they are so boring, you have more than one reason not to spawn an AA not because you are not good at it bro
That’s theory
In practice it’s more rock - coughing baby - nuclear device, except around 9.0-9.7, where AA can actually be a threat
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Oh you missed the mark on that pretty dramatically. I quite enjoy hunting aircraft.
I often play AA-helicopters or SPAA as close to exclusively as I can 🤣
But thanks for the logical fallacy
Planes get a seperate, unique spawn for themselves in Ground RB, why wouldn’t SPAA get a seperate, unique spawn for themselves in Air RB? To invert your argument, it would be like someone saying “Who’d want to spawn in a plane in Ground RB, there’d be nowhere to take off?”.
But to get back to the point of their argument, they are claiming that a logical analogy of what planes do to Ground RB would be player controlled SPAA in Air RB. Which is to say, you will be attempting to enjoy the core gameplay of the mode (plane versus plane), only for it to be interrupted by another player who is able to engage you via a completely different ruleset than the one you were previously engaging with.
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not at all, i simply dont want CAS
i guarantee you will never come up with a reason why TO is a bad idea.
cheap troll, try another time
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That’s 5000KG - 5Tons. So around 11000lbs
#Metric_system_chads
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I’ve grinded out pantsir because “its soo good and it plays itself, best spaa in game” and i have it constantly crewlocked because i don’t want to waste time on boring “spam-lock-button” gameplay.
If i would want to look at the sky i would go outside and touch grass.
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Explains how easily he wasted me… Ridiculous for a heavy bomber to be even classed as a Cas…
Gaijoob pls add grand slam, ground battles literally unplayable without it
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