I said odl and pure ground players. Basically all players without access to aircraft. Mentioned all categories because it would be weird that some can have it and some cant. Game should give possibility at least. Will player use it - is up to player. We cant just scrap it because “ahh, he is too stupid anyway, he wont need it” (exaggerating). By this logic free aa should havent been added as well because odl wont use it anyway and will lose to experienced pilot.
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Cool beans, but I doubt you actually pay attention too much overall, it doesn’t make a difference, ODLs aren’t in every lobby as you made out.
I’m not you i actually read, understand and remember.
And stop making things up, i never wrote anywhere “every match at any br”. Such a shameless lie- bro is living in his imagination.
Dude, you don’t even understand what different BRs and ranks have different gameplay, that’s why I recommend you to play all tiers and then start arguing, especially if we talking about things like ODL.
Anyway, I’m convinced you have no idea what you are talking about and after you confessed playing only under 6.0 - there’s no reason to continue chatting with you.
I’m sure you will claim this comment as your “victory” but hope someone reading last ~50 comment and understands what’s happening here.
No more answers from me, you aren’t worth it, not because I’m better than at any means - because you don’t know what you are talking about. And clearly you having fun trolling.
- completely different learning curve for someone who has used neither. Air = much steeper.
- apparently the ODL players are not taking up the free stuff as much as Gaijin has hoped. Still lots of ODL from what I hear.
Where’d I write that then?
Ahh the old ‘Troll, I’m no longer replying’ when contested…
Even with superior and easier to use weaponry (at br of free spaa*), unexperienced player will still lose to pilot. And its like that (learning curve) thanks to gaijin simplifying aa gameplay and not bothering with proper aircraft tutorials for all eras, situations and weapon systems.
Because as I said before, there are reasons besides ones you mentioned.
The thing is, I have never said anything like that.
HA, Such a good joke… You literally say it with every counter by posting your killfeeds, and making out that there’s no contest from any SPAA…
You don’t know the difference between saying:
„A vehicle is not capable of doing X”
and
„A player is not capable of doing X”
because there is a huge difference.
I’ve made mention of both and you’ve dismissed it all… So really, there is no difference, you want to throw the difference out to keep going circle circle…
The only one going in circle is You as You keep talking about same thing without providing anything to back it up not to mention Your own record being against what You say.
Nope, I don’t need to prove anything, this isn’t a debate or a lecture… I’m sorry that you can’t understand this fact.
Surely it’s only a matter of time until someone gets your plane with their coaxial MG and thus proves once and for all that anyone in anything can easily deal with CAS, right?
Seen many a plane caught by a single round, to burn down over time.
I’m glad the parity between tanks and CAS has finally been established. Phew.
I’m glad some people just prove that they actually care about the topic and don’t want to understand what other party talks about.
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Pardon me? Its full on mockery, i straight up dont respect you as a person.
Amidst your ramblings you mayhaps noticed that I responded to particular claim you made within larger context - that being, and I quote:
I did not start talking about it ouf of the thin air.
Time and time again over the course of this thread it was explained to you how this is boogus assumption to make solely on the grounds that unlike subjective opinions, numbers that represent stats are verifiable metric that does not lie.
You can dismiss ULQ performance however you like, at the end of the day, his performance in CAS planes demonstrates one thing consistently - he is able to demolish entire teams without much opposition.
And many times in threads like these clips were shared where he demonstrated this even against SPAA.
If any of the “CAS is balanced” or “CAS is weak” arguments were true, numbers would simply not match.
But they do.
Your other assumption, and I quote:
Given the number of matches he played, it seems unlikely that he never encountered competent SPAA
In the end id highly advise to you to take a step back and maybe think about what you are posting. You keep insisting that verifiable track record holds no water and you keep your subjective opinions as facts.
You are holding objective statistics to a higher evidentiary standard than you are holding your own anecdotal experience.
Unless, of course, you do this on purpose since you have agenda to follow.
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I dont respect you either.
In fact, id go out of my way to hurt you.
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You and I clearly do not have the same problem in mind. From what I gather, you see CAS vs Tank as inherently unfair and want to create an escape route for people who say “I don’t know how to deal with this while playing only what I want to play.”
In my case, I do not see CAS vs Tank as inherently unbalanced at all. That is why I never bothered answering any of your prior claims about “well what would I do in my tank if a plane wants to hunt me?!” Because at the moment a plane decides to hunt you, it’s frankly no different than being jumped and one-tapped by another tank in a cheeky spot you didn’t know was there and didn’t think to look for. You’re already dead in either case, so why bitch about it?
The problem I am solving, meanwhile, is how to stop the damage to the rest of the game from the CAS debate without giving the crazies what they scream for. Because I have observed the arguments on this for over a decade at this point, and clearly seen that the moment you’d finally have your TO mode, you’d just find something else to bitch about to where you’d then force Snail’s hand and have them nerf that into the mud too.
That is why I arrived at “empower the counters to where the only logical, common sense solution for anyone not insane is to just shut up and use the damn things. Then anyone who doesn’t is isolated, ostracized by everyone else who IS using the empowered counters, and eventually leaves upon recognizing the game isn’t going to give them what they want.” I have witnessed on multiple occasions where the moment working counters arrive that are common-sense to use, most people DO in fact shut up and use them.
The Coelian buff temporarily shut down CAS complaints from 6.0+ for over a month until the longtime veteran players stopped playing that area. The Radar-equipped SPAAG every nation has at 7.3+ also cause most CAS complaints to drop off a cliff. I saw how the forum arguments changed upon addition of the modern SAMs at current top tier such as the IRIS-T before the SAMs then got neutered to appease Helicopter Whales - the moment an effective counter appeared, most people shut up and used it. The moment that effective counter disappeared, the bitching resumed.
So frankly, I know my ideas will in fact work - they just won’t do what you want.
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Oh come on! This is what you resort to?
You don’t deserve what you want because you will just end up complaining about that too?
What a crock.
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