The thing is, I have never said anything like that.
HA, Such a good joke… You literally say it with every counter by posting your killfeeds, and making out that there’s no contest from any SPAA…
You don’t know the difference between saying:
„A vehicle is not capable of doing X”
and
„A player is not capable of doing X”
because there is a huge difference.
I’ve made mention of both and you’ve dismissed it all… So really, there is no difference, you want to throw the difference out to keep going circle circle…
The only one going in circle is You as You keep talking about same thing without providing anything to back it up not to mention Your own record being against what You say.
Nope, I don’t need to prove anything, this isn’t a debate or a lecture… I’m sorry that you can’t understand this fact.
Surely it’s only a matter of time until someone gets your plane with their coaxial MG and thus proves once and for all that anyone in anything can easily deal with CAS, right?
Seen many a plane caught by a single round, to burn down over time.
I’m glad the parity between tanks and CAS has finally been established. Phew.
I’m glad some people just prove that they actually care about the topic and don’t want to understand what other party talks about.
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Pardon me? Its full on mockery, i straight up dont respect you as a person.
Amidst your ramblings you mayhaps noticed that I responded to particular claim you made within larger context - that being, and I quote:
I did not start talking about it ouf of the thin air.
Time and time again over the course of this thread it was explained to you how this is boogus assumption to make solely on the grounds that unlike subjective opinions, numbers that represent stats are verifiable metric that does not lie.
You can dismiss ULQ performance however you like, at the end of the day, his performance in CAS planes demonstrates one thing consistently - he is able to demolish entire teams without much opposition.
And many times in threads like these clips were shared where he demonstrated this even against SPAA.
If any of the “CAS is balanced” or “CAS is weak” arguments were true, numbers would simply not match.
But they do.
Your other assumption, and I quote:
Given the number of matches he played, it seems unlikely that he never encountered competent SPAA
In the end id highly advise to you to take a step back and maybe think about what you are posting. You keep insisting that verifiable track record holds no water and you keep your subjective opinions as facts.
You are holding objective statistics to a higher evidentiary standard than you are holding your own anecdotal experience.
Unless, of course, you do this on purpose since you have agenda to follow.
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Ad Hominem
I dont respect you either.
In fact, id go out of my way to hurt you.
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You and I clearly do not have the same problem in mind. From what I gather, you see CAS vs Tank as inherently unfair and want to create an escape route for people who say “I don’t know how to deal with this while playing only what I want to play.”
In my case, I do not see CAS vs Tank as inherently unbalanced at all. That is why I never bothered answering any of your prior claims about “well what would I do in my tank if a plane wants to hunt me?!” Because at the moment a plane decides to hunt you, it’s frankly no different than being jumped and one-tapped by another tank in a cheeky spot you didn’t know was there and didn’t think to look for. You’re already dead in either case, so why bitch about it?
The problem I am solving, meanwhile, is how to stop the damage to the rest of the game from the CAS debate without giving the crazies what they scream for. Because I have observed the arguments on this for over a decade at this point, and clearly seen that the moment you’d finally have your TO mode, you’d just find something else to bitch about to where you’d then force Snail’s hand and have them nerf that into the mud too.
That is why I arrived at “empower the counters to where the only logical, common sense solution for anyone not insane is to just shut up and use the damn things. Then anyone who doesn’t is isolated, ostracized by everyone else who IS using the empowered counters, and eventually leaves upon recognizing the game isn’t going to give them what they want.” I have witnessed on multiple occasions where the moment working counters arrive that are common-sense to use, most people DO in fact shut up and use them.
The Coelian buff temporarily shut down CAS complaints from 6.0+ for over a month until the longtime veteran players stopped playing that area. The Radar-equipped SPAAG every nation has at 7.3+ also cause most CAS complaints to drop off a cliff. I saw how the forum arguments changed upon addition of the modern SAMs at current top tier such as the IRIS-T before the SAMs then got neutered to appease Helicopter Whales - the moment an effective counter appeared, most people shut up and used it. The moment that effective counter disappeared, the bitching resumed.
So frankly, I know my ideas will in fact work - they just won’t do what you want.
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Oh come on! This is what you resort to?
You don’t deserve what you want because you will just end up complaining about that too?
What a crock.
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When folk like you complaining because you refused to adapt repeatedly ruined what I was minding my own business enjoying in Air RB and Sim EC years ago, yes it damn well is.
I want the nerf cycle broken, and after observing the people who always seem to be doing the complaining, I realized those people were the issue.
Therefore, to stop their ability to damage the game further via their own warped selfishness, make their whining solely their own damn fault and DROP IT is what I arrived at.
Anyone who wants to counter CAS should be able to easily do so, no different than the general ease of use of any other tank class. But anyone who has the tools and willingly chooses to ignore them should NOT be given any pity whatsoever. That is how I arrived at:
- make the existing ground-to-air tools effective even in average player hands by any reasonable means necessary
- make sure every player has all practical tools in their deck by default so they can’t dare claim “but I didn’t have the tools to defend myself!” Yes you did, you didn’t read the situation well and didn’t choose to use them.
- make sure those tools are also potent enough at defending themselves against tanks in a non-nuisance manner so that those tools will actually be taken to where the CAS likes to congregate.
- remove the entire concept of planes being powerups people “earn,” so that people now have no excuse not to try using Fighters to defend their team, and so Fighters alone don’t go hungry with them being first spawns but CAS still being dumb powerups.
It fixes the problem - the ability of the people who hate CAS to complain about it by laying all possible means to help themselves at their feet, and walking away. Then if they want to help themselves, they can. If they don’t, nobody will look at them as victims anymore, but as the fools they always were from the very beginning.
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Your post was just ignorant and dismissive. You would have been better off just ignoring the posts you don’t agree with instead of posting an unfounded opinion. It’s just ridiculous.
You and others say “we” should never expect TO mode because it’s a non-starter for Gaijin.
Yet the suggestion to gift anyone a free CAP or CAS is even more of a non-starter.
You do not like all the complaining players do about CAS, and then go ahead and suggest all spaag should get APDS. APDS was removed from vehicles BECAUSE of all the complaining.
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One was confirmed by Gajin to be an impossibility. The other wasn’t.
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Tbh a free random stock aircraft like in naval would be alright.
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Except Combined Naval already has this very concept. That’s where I get it from.
Top tier Combined Ground saw the default backup tank and default backup SPAAG thrown in everyone’s decks, directly inspired from the above concept in Combined Naval with planes.
Thus the game is more than halfway there already. My idea isn’t as wild as you think it is.
Because I do not see CAS vs Tank as inherently any more unfair than the moment you get ambushed by someone who kills you with another tank before you are able to react. In either case, you’re dead.
I do not like the endless loop of complaints about CAS because of Snail’s consistent response being to “just nerf the weapon, it’ll go away now…” which doesn’t work, and never has. All that does is punish folk in other aviation modes for the problems in this mode. I have seen the same people keep on bitching endlessly no matter what CAS weapon gets changed, therefore I blame the people doing the bitching FAR more than I do the Snail. And therefore people like that need a piece of “digital duck tape” put over their mouths forevermore, because they never won’t find something else that’s “unfair” to bitch about - it’s an entrenched victim mentality problem, it’s not even about the CAS really. CAS just happens to be what said mentality is fixated upon for the time being.
Thus, the solution I arrived at removes all possible logical excuses for those types of people to complain in the first place, unless it’s entirely by something of their own choice, in which case there is no excuse to complain inherently. The ball is kicked into the court of the people who do the complaining - now it’s their choice to either kick it back or walk away.
This is another recurring problem I see based on player behavior. People clearly want to shred tanks with rapid-fire guns. IFVs already do this all the time - so why punish SPAAG when in many cases they have the exact same guns and rounds? Just remove the part that’s actually annoying - the barrel damage that allows them to casually spray at you from mid-map and render you helpless to shoot back - and then allow if not expect all SPAAG to hunt tanks whenever they are able, intentionally adjusting BRs so they are all able to do so.
If people don’t want to be melted by SPAAG, then they need to focus not on the SPAAG but on the maps in rotation and collectively demand bigger maps where SPAAG cannot so easily get that close.