How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

Thanks for staying on topic and not trolling, derailing it.

Not everyone is like that tho. There are people who already have experience but cant afford grinding even more trees. I dont bother playing anything besides US/Russia/Israel because I dont have air trees grinded for Germany/UK/France/China/Sweden/Italy despite having ground trees grinded. I would just be inferior unit without full lineup.

But if everyone will be like that, they all would be mostly equal. Until sweatlord hops in sure.

Also this can be fixed with improved tutorials and gaijin is slowly but moving in this direction. They have munitions tutorials right in game already.

Well, it is because you’re just going around in circles, and refuse to accept anything else because you know everything we suggest is not going to work because your superiority in all things CAS is amazingly superior, so superior we should just stop because you deem it to be derailing the topic that you say all the time, but it’s not a matter of a player with skill facing you, it’s a vehicle limitation, which actually doesn’t exist because as I say, I don’t think you’ve faced anyone who is exceptionally skilled, or a pair of coordinated SPAA players…

But that is hardly the case.
There are plenty of players in GRB that have high skill with aircraft.
So give a straight tanker (little experience in the air) a free CAS or CAP to try and counter the enemy air units, guess what happens? 9 times out of 10 the free air unit is easily shot down.

Typical ODL players are NOT gonna take up that free CAS / CAP because

  1. it gives the enemy an easy kill
  2. just leads to more frustration of wasted time with nothing to show for it.

How it went?

“But I care not if I am mistaken…”

Again, anecdotal… I don’t think you’ve encountered anyone who has actually tested your skill to dislodge your head from where it’s squarely stuck…

And I wouldn’t be surprised if you did get your ass handed to you on a plate, and you don’t or wouldn’t admit that you had because it would deflate the mood you set on every interaction you pass this superiority on in…

I have played in many tournaments and have fought many great players, far better than me.

You know what everyone would tell You? Air always have the advantage.

There is an advantage, but it’s not a be all end all as you make out.

Like, this is exactly what the thread is supposed to be about but you can’t submit to the discussion, it’s just flex and talk down, constantly…

It is the advantage that allows You to destroy the other without them being able to do anything about it.

The thread is about the skill, sadly in game no matter what skill SPAA player have, the air player guides the fight and only if he makes a mistake an SPAA user can win.

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And that is exactly the ignorance you portray to be a definitive…

Circle circle, circle circle, nothing more than circle circle… You’re the one that derails and spams up threads because you are the one who can’t actually accept anything other than you being up there on the podium.

Just absolutely unengageable.

This is how it is in the game.

Unlike You, I have many times proved it with videos/screanshoots of the game.

Can we stop with this derail and actually discuss things about the topic?

Based on exp from my f4j anti cas crusade in grb, I cant agree with that. Vast majority of my victims was as skilled as rock.

That depends on enemy unit skill and you never know who it is. And as I said before, gaijin should improve their tutorials plus motivate players to pass them. And over time people will learn, practice and improve themselves.

Odl players wont take that because they are odl players anyway. And reasons are beyond 2 ones you mentioned. Maps, economy etc. Gaijin would need to work on that first.

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As I said, there’s no discussion with you, you’re merely dictating as always…

Any actual engagement with you lays back on your laurels and your opinions being ‘fact’ compared to actually discussing anything.

If it were about discussion, then you’d be accepting the topic of this rather than touting your own ‘I’m better than any SPAA player’ compared to being humble and actually accepting that you may not be the best, and that there’s absolutely no way in hell you’ve never been shot down…

My first response to your posts was because you mentioned ODL in the same sentence as “free” air units. So what did you mean?

My list still applies regardless (of ODL or otherwise). Little skill in the vehicle (air) and players will not take up that mantle. Quick death and nothing to show for it.

We were talking of AI units on the field, alternative to players as targets.

I said odl and pure ground players. Basically all players without access to aircraft. Mentioned all categories because it would be weird that some can have it and some cant. Game should give possibility at least. Will player use it - is up to player. We cant just scrap it because “ahh, he is too stupid anyway, he wont need it” (exaggerating). By this logic free aa should havent been added as well because odl wont use it anyway and will lose to experienced pilot.

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Cool beans, but I doubt you actually pay attention too much overall, it doesn’t make a difference, ODLs aren’t in every lobby as you made out.

I’m not you i actually read, understand and remember.
And stop making things up, i never wrote anywhere “every match at any br”. Such a shameless lie- bro is living in his imagination.

Dude, you don’t even understand what different BRs and ranks have different gameplay, that’s why I recommend you to play all tiers and then start arguing, especially if we talking about things like ODL.

Anyway, I’m convinced you have no idea what you are talking about and after you confessed playing only under 6.0 - there’s no reason to continue chatting with you.
I’m sure you will claim this comment as your “victory” but hope someone reading last ~50 comment and understands what’s happening here.

No more answers from me, you aren’t worth it, not because I’m better than at any means - because you don’t know what you are talking about. And clearly you having fun trolling.

  1. completely different learning curve for someone who has used neither. Air = much steeper.
  2. apparently the ODL players are not taking up the free stuff as much as Gaijin has hoped. Still lots of ODL from what I hear.

Where’d I write that then?

Ahh the old ‘Troll, I’m no longer replying’ when contested…

Even with superior and easier to use weaponry (at br of free spaa*), unexperienced player will still lose to pilot. And its like that (learning curve) thanks to gaijin simplifying aa gameplay and not bothering with proper aircraft tutorials for all eras, situations and weapon systems.

Because as I said before, there are reasons besides ones you mentioned.