How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

[FlyingDoctor]

@DESPAIR7991

Is it fact that after few minutes there is half lobby gone?

That is what’s called anecdotal evidence.

@DESPAIR7991

Any mentality healthy person should understand there’s different problem people have with game, people refuse to spawn more than once, max 2 times that’s FACT.

Ahh the old ad hominem…

Am I not mentally healthy because I don’t align with your want to gripe?

@DESPAIR7991

Yeah buddy as you say. When was last time you played something above 7.0??

Doesn’t matter what I play, the facts are facts regardless of the BR I play…

Fact of the matter is you took all that time to statcheck me because you didn’t have anything to actually keep drilling me on because you’ve been well out of your league the entire time and all you’re doing is arguing and being aggressive…

@Sytryse

You denied that ODL excist at all in gameplay and that everyone just playing without leaving the battle as soon they only verhicle got destroyed and not using the free verhicles provided by Gaijin.

That isn’t what was said, I said it’s not a ‘every match’ sense… It’s not like I see every match I am in with half the lobby ODL as he was actually saying.

[Beeschurger]

@FlyingDoctor

That is what’s called anecdotal evidence

As opposed to you stating pure fact, i take it?

[FlyingDoctor]

Can you quote my facts, as I’m sure I’ll stand by them and can easily prove them in many cases…

Better than saying an absolute that every lobby ends up with half of the players ODL within 3 minutes… That’s just idiotic…

@DESPAIR7991

Again, people adapt and that’s why we have at least 50% lobby ODL, even though they added free vehicles and free buck ups. It means problem wasn’t people don’t having line ups - problem is game mechanics, which you guys don’t want to understand even when it’s explained repeatedly.

@DESPAIR7991

Speculation?? Is it fact that Gaijin added free backups and vehicles or not? Is it fact that after few minutes there is half lobby gone?
Any mentality healthy person should understand there’s different problem people have with game, people refuse to spawn more than once, max 2 times that’s FACT.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@FlyingDoctor

Can you quote my facts, as I’m sure I’ll stand by them and can easily prove them in many cases…

„But I care not if I am mistaken or not….”

[FlyingDoctor]

@ULQ_LOVER

„But I care not if I am mistaken or not….”

That is a fact… I don’t care, and it’s because it’s pointed at you, and your want to make out I was wrong.

[ULQ_LOVER]

IF You don’t care if what You say is true, there is no point in discussion as You will just make things up on spot to just prove Your agenda.

Please stop destroying topics with baseless arguments and things You call „facts”.

[FlyingDoctor]

Prove these facts then…

@DESPAIR7991

Again, people adapt and that’s why we have at least 50% lobby ODL, even though they added free vehicles and free buck ups. It means problem wasn’t people don’t having line ups - problem is game mechanics, which you guys don’t want to understand even when it’s explained repeatedly.

@DESPAIR7991

Speculation?? Is it fact that Gaijin added free backups and vehicles or not? Is it fact that after few minutes there is half lobby gone?
Any mentality healthy person should understand there’s different problem people have with game, people refuse to spawn more than once, max 2 times that’s FACT.

Furthermore, your ‘facts’ are also anecdotal in that same sense…

[ULQ_LOVER]

@FlyingDoctor

Prove these facts then…

You should ask a person who wrote it to prove it.

@FlyingDoctor

Furthermore, your ‘facts’ are also anecdotal in that same sense…

Which ones?

[FlyingDoctor]

@ULQ_LOVER

You should ask a person who wrote it to prove it.

He won’t, but you should tell them to prove it seeing as you want to hold people accountable, or is that just because it’s me?

@ULQ_LOVER

Which ones?

Your killstreak example… That’s just you doing that, it’s not an ‘everyone’ situation.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@FlyingDoctor

Your killstreak example… That’s just you doing that, it’s not an ‘everyone’ situation.

Where have I said that it is everyone situation?

[FlyingDoctor]

Where have you not said that, as every time someone says that they can counter it, you say they can’t or that they’re lying…

Funny that…

@ULQ_LOVER

Please stop destroying topics with baseless arguments and things You call „facts”.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@FlyingDoctor

Where have you not said that, as every time someone says that they can counter it, you say they can’t or that they’re lying…

I prove what can be done with vehicle and that is true.

Not to mention actual state of things (their stats) disprove it.

[FlyingDoctor]

Again, I don’t think you’ve encountered a capable SPAA player… And K/D mean nothing in a mode where you can respawn multiple times, in a vehicle that costs literally a fraction of the cost of your plane.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@FlyingDoctor

Again, I don’t think you’ve encountered a capable SPAA player…

We talk about what vehicle can do, not player.

@FlyingDoctor

And K/D mean nothing in a mode where you can respawn multiple times, in a vehicle that costs literally a fraction of the cost of your plane.

It means as enemy gain SP from killing You.

If You have to die 5 times in order to kill one player it doesn’t seem right.

[FlyingDoctor]

@ULQ_LOVER

We talk about what vehicle can do, not player.

Absolute hogwash… Moving goalposts there as always…

@ULQ_LOVER

It means as enemy gain SP from killing You.

If You have to die 5 times in order to kill one player it doesn’t seem right.

Your method of statcheck dismissal was never about that in the slightest…

But by all means, heed your own advice…

@ULQ_LOVER

Please stop destroying topics with baseless arguments and things You call „facts”.

As I’ve regularly said, this isn’t a debate to prove people wrong, it’s a discussion… I think you consistently get that wrong in your arrogance and drive to argue.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@FlyingDoctor

Absolute hogwash… Moving goalposts there as always…

I don’t move anything, I say how things are.

@FlyingDoctor

Your method of statcheck dismissal was never about that in the slightest…

It was always about that.

@FlyingDoctor

As I’ve regularly said, this isn’t a debate to prove people wrong, it’s a discussion… I think you consistently get that wrong in your arrogance and drive to argue.

There is no point in discussion when it doesn’t go anywhere as everyone can just make things up and won’t care if they are mistaken.

[FlyingDoctor]

blah blah blah… Again…

@ULQ_LOVER

Please stop destroying topics with baseless arguments and things You call „facts”.

You’re the one who constantly destroys topics…

Now come on Beeschurger, where’s your input after sitting back on that for that long…

[Beeschurger]

@FlyingDoctor

And K/D mean nothing in a mode where you can respawn multiple times, in a vehicle that costs literally a fraction of the cost of your plane.

My favorite argument of people who are net drain on team tickets.

KD means that you remove more enemy team tickets by killing them than you remove from your team by getting yourself killed.

And since lowering the tickets of either team to zero usually means winning the game, its pretty damn important metric.

[FlyingDoctor]

Where’s the facts you called out before this troll turned up…

@Beeschurger

As opposed to you stating pure fact, i take it?

You sure talk a hard game, but you don’t have the back to support it…

[FlyingDoctor]

@Beeschurger

My favorite argument of people who are net drain on team tickets.

KD means that you remove more enemy team tickets by killing them than you remove from your team by getting yourself killed.

And since lowering the tickets of either team to zero usually means winning the game, its pretty damn important metric.

The dumbest take on this because you ignore that I can take out someone who could be taking out 1000-1500 tickets, or could be holding the team back from taking a cap to turn the ticket bleed from another.

Again, you ain’t got the back to support your previous throwout, and you sat silently whilst ULQ tried picking an argument, and you still can’t front…

Same as ULQ fixating on my ‘mistake’ as I pointed out that all that back and forth and then it ALL became about that one transgression…

If anyone is lacking arguments or actual facts, it’s most of the guys in this thread that make such an argument and dogpile, on the backs of these guys who consistently dismiss points, discussion, call people trolls ALL THE TIME, then bugger off to go silent for days on end when they get called out like @DESPAIR7991 then come back once the dog pack all start churning out post after post to clog up otherwise fruitful threads.

After all, I mentioned even having other targets on the field as I have done in the past, and true to form, ULQ instantly said that wouldn’t work because they’d only go for players…

What a killer of any discussion on this topic, and EVERY topic…