How many people like planes are in tank mode

This isn’t a single-player game. If your team are reluctant to spawn SPAA and/or their own air assets, then your team deserves to lose.

No. A very vocal minority want ground to be tanks only. I personally play ground RB for the mixed battles. I would play World of Tanks if I wanted a tank only mode, as from what I’ve seen that game is managed much better and only has pay2win bias, as opposed to the multitude of double standards in WT.

I’ve seen plenty of people spawn Leopard 2a7s and die in the first minute of a top tier match. Does that mean the 2a7 is weak? Or is it a player skill issue?

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Not complicated at all…
Their choice, their problem…

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If you are not even willing to invest your time in certain mechanics then you have to live with the consequences.
SPAA make sense. Yes, you need time. No, you can’t always smash everything. And no, you won’t achieve extremely high K/D numbers with them.
If you get glued to the spawn with your arse and an SPAA, you’ve just signed your death warrant.

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If they dont have them or are simply unable to use them then there is surely an issue. You cant deny the fact that using both planes and SPAAs requires training and that air battle allow players to get that training while SPAAs are like “take this and good luck”.

I would like to see the statistics on this.

Actually i would rather like to be GB tanks only for 1-2 weeks and see the results of asking players afterwards how they would feel about it.

You comparing fighting a tank with a tank that takes place in 100% of the mode, with specialized tanks fighting air which happens only partially, if at all. Thats not realy a good comparison. If you made one with planes crashing on a strafe you would have had a better argument.

Fine by me, if you can live with the fallout of this. After all it wouldnt hurt at all to at least regognize that SPAAs have issue and that the problems could be reduced by giving players using them better feedback on why they dont hit. But the again i was also called out already for suggesting having a propepr training ground for SPAAs, so theres that.

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We’re talking about spawning a fighter, not an SPAA, right?

You guys know this is a topic about ground pve right?

Last time I checked it is in AB settings. So talks about RB are not about this topic.

I had the impression we talk about defending against fighters in general.

“What is missile travel time?” For $500 Alex

If you’re flying in a straight line, yeah.

Yes my 6 free kill vehicle costs more spawn points than my SPAA platform that can’t reload in spawn. Truly a wonder.

“not meant to be” and isn’t.

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A poor player in a ground vehicle who is killed isn’t rewarded with 5 kills because they’re carrying a 5,000lb bomb. CAS rewards bad play. Ground does not.

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I don’t think so…

Sry about that, but then again dont wanting to spawn planes in a ground fight is not a bad stance, but lacking propper ground options to deal with it is.

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Ofc it’s not a bad stance. However, if a player chose not to use fighters, then they can hardly complain about having no defense against CAS…

But expecting SPAAs to match and having tanks have some level of defence is also not unreasonable. After all you have to respect that some players simply dont want to fly.

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The opponent doesn’t give a damn …

I do respect that, however such players have to respect, that there are aircrafts in the game and no one is going to change it just because they don’t want to fly…

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But they can still expect to be able to counter them even if they dont want to fly. There are plenty of ideas how it could be improved and i sadly dont see ppl cheering on improving it in the first place.

Sounds like no change is needed, then… ;)

Sad thing about it is, ive seen such things happen to games in the past and it always turned out bad in a long run.

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That is the alternative if they don’t wanna fly. Learn it or don’t. But don’t expect your opponent to stop using everything he has to defeat them.

Yeah, well my suggestion to add a propper shooting range to learn them or getting better feedback when missing was dismissed, so my point stands.

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