How long will Aim120 be dominant?

[Morvran]

Oh right yeah…

[AllNationEnjoyer]

@luque13

You wouldnt swap 12 R-77-1 for 6 120s?

Missile count doesnt come with the missile

[Morvran]

If I mostly played ARB and with the current radar issues on the Typhoon usually limiting you to sub 20km ranges anyway. I probably would prefer something like MICA or R-77-1 over the AMRAAM at the moment. Sit defensive, get in close, lay waste.

In ASB, where I have time beat the radar into submission and actually have some semblence of the range needed to make the most of the AMRAAM. Id stick to AMRAAM. Especially being a more defensive player anyway, the little extra range is useful.

[Leinadmix9_ツ]

@Nike Ajax

it will become WVR regardless with competetive pilots and the r-77-1 will win there

💯
Literally this, finally someone that gets it

@Ruskie_Turtles

I feel like half this thread haven’t used the aim120 to say its weaker than r77-1. It maintains energy better than the r77-1. You can get consistent hits out to 40km or so.

Against noobs

@Ruskie_Turtles

No, wtf are you on about? Sure the bvr platform matters. Planes more suited to bvr are going to be better at it. The drag on the r77-1 is so high that even launched from above mach 1.5 at 10km it simply doesn’t have the range the aim120, nor the same speed in terminal.

Thats not true
_120 vs 77-1 test.rar (5.3 MB)

[WalletWarrior69]

BVR is non existant, you can only kill clueless f18 premium low level users.

[AllNationEnjoyer]

Ok, let me be clear to everyone still trying to complain about russia, what do you want changed???

[Anonymous4245]

Remove it

[AllNationEnjoyer]

Be realistic so I can actually humor you

[Anonymous4245]

Limit russian planes to only R-3R and R-3S. Also remove PD filter for them

(/s btw)

[quartas121]

Give real counterpart to Russian jet. I want F-22 with AIM-120D same BR as Su-30SM. And F-15SA with 120C-7 same BR. F-15E with APG-82V1 and 120D as well

Maybe even pre production F-35, 2013 is the limit

[Anonymous4245]

Man good thing intro dates aren’t a factor in game. Because guess it is specifically a game

[quartas121]

I feel like “F-22 with AIM-120D” and pre production F-35 were pretty dead giveaways it was a joke, but alr

[Anonymous4245]

I know, but some people unironically would love this idea

[quartas121]

I wouldn’t mind the F-15’s soon but they are like 14.3 material, not 14.0

[warthogboy09]

@AllNationEnjoyer

R-77-1 is not much stronger than AIM-120A

It is. It matches the AIM-120A in long range for dealing with bad players, while having a much better engagement envelope in effective range. The second aspect is far more important than the first.

[warthogboy09]

@Von_Valinor

Mica is good at short distances, but it doesn’t have half the cheff resistance of the aim120,

This is incorrect. The MICA is the only top tier ARH missile with a different (better) seeker. And it has only been the case since the release of the most recent major.

[AllNationEnjoyer]

@quartas121

Give real counterpart to Russian jet. I want F-22 with AIM-120D same BR as Su-30SM. And F-15SA with 120C-7 same BR. F-15E with APG-82V1 and 120D as well

Maybe even pre production F-35, 2013 is the limit

quit pulling my chain :(

i want the real usa and/or anti-ussr players to answer

[AllNationEnjoyer]

@warthogboy09

It is. It matches the AIM-120A in long range for dealing with bad players, while having a much better engagement envelope in effective range. The second aspect is far more important than the first.

My 120s when fired outside of 4km do not miss any shot anyway, so the point is minor

[quartas121]

@AllNationEnjoyer

real usa

Look at my stats

i geniunely want every single thing listed (aside from BR part lol), but some of it can wait

[warthogboy09]

@AllNationEnjoyer

My 120s when fired outside of 4km do not miss any shot anyway,

Then you are shooting at bad players. And against good players being able to shoot an ARH within 4km without having to point the nose straight at them is far more important.