My 120s when fired outside of 4km do not miss any shot anyway, so the point is minor
Look at my stats
i geniunely want every single thing listed (aside from BR part lol), but some of it can wait
Then you are shooting at bad players. And against good players being able to shoot an ARH within 4km without having to point the nose straight at them is far more important.
yeah no duh, thats the playerbase in a nutshell, half the ppl playing 14.0 literally, literally do not know what notching is
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at least in air RB, you are greatly exaggerating how much the aircraft influences your success
I agree. But by that logic, the Fakour-90 is a better missile than the AMRAAM.
I think a discussion on what makes a missile good hinges on its own capabilities, not the lack of capability of target players.
You cannot count on every target being bad. You can count on the missiles you fire being good. And from that standpoint, the AMRAAM has the least envelope for being good, in comparison to the rest of the modern ARHs.
If they ever rework seekers to be more unique this might change, but until then it’s not.
Or if they added decently sized maps. Especially in ARB.
A middle ground review using both aspects is best. In that, R-77-1 and AIM-120 end up mostly equal enough
Even then, it doesn’t change the fact that firing outside of ~10km is going to give the target ample time to avoid a missile.
Having better TTI below 10km is more important IMO than being able to extend the max range by getting high and fast.
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Which I agree with.
ARH missiles have 2 major attributes
Range and maneuvability.
As one increases the other decreases. But people for some reason seem to fixate on AMRAAM having the better range as a reason for it to be OP, without ever acknowledging that at closer ranges, say in a dogfight at sub 10km. Its by far one of the weakest.
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Yeah, very true. MICA for example is a doddle to defend against without even using chaff at medium range, but terrofying at close range. AMRAAM is certainly worthy showing more respect at medium range, but fairly trivial to deal with.
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Ok, thanks
You can go further than that. The AAM-4, PL-12 and SD-10 trade slightly in effective range with the AIM-120 for better envelope. And the MICA trades a fair amount of range for massively increased envelope.
All of this to say: No ARH “dominates”, every tech tree has a competitive missile. The AIM-120 only seems like it dominates because it is by far the most common missile at top tier.
Edit: and that isn’t going to change in the future either. Every tech tree that currently gets AIM-120 will likely get 120C-5 (and China) even when it will be equalled or even outpaced by other missiles.
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Also the bad ARB map design is perfect for just spamming AMRAAM, Aim-54 and F-90s down range and people still overly rely on MP to defend, meaning you will still get kills.
Its probably also note worthy to mention that aircraft like the F-15E and Typhoon can climb extremely well, and so can fire down which also helps greatly mitigate MP and people generally have a really bad understanding on how MP works, They see AMRAAMs getting kills despite “multipathing” but R-77s crash into the ground when fired low at someone low.
But yeah. For the most part quantity is to blame
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AAM-4’s “better envelope” is tiny and the amount its better is as well. For all intents and purposes its just an amraam in wt
minus the aim 54 part
Which only furthers my point. All of the top tier missiles are comparable. And generally are even percentagly better than the AIM-120, but for some reason it’s “the AMRAAM is OP”
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Nah, people spam them off and still get kills. They might not be all that good. And anyone with half a brain cell will survive. But everyone flying down a narrow corridor just creates a perfect environment for a rapid spam and someone will inevitably be killed due to over reliance on MP, especially as they are often fired high
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