True but players die to the 120 by recomitting before the missile has been defeated.
Or not paying attention to RWR
Give an F-15E or a Typhoon pilot the choice.
Of 8-6 120s or 12 R-77-1.
Very few are chosing the 120.
which is the pilot being a noob
missiles should be compared competetive pilot versus competetive pilot
not competetive pilot versus noob pilot
Your post is the equivalent of replying about bridges when I was talking about roofs. Just because you missed the point doesn’t make me off topic. Since you apparently need a breakdown of it here we go:
Spanish talks about engagement ranges in game with the 120
I reply talking about engagement ranges and using another missile as an example
We converse a little more about that
You reply with a completely unrelated statement about nothing we were talking about purely for the purpose of arguing
when the post is about bridges and not roofs
stop being mad when people talk to you about the actual topic instead of replying to you about what youre going on offtopic
I just tried TWS, and… at least on F-15C it’s rubbish lmao. Even with the target constantly locked in TWS, and the target not maneuvering at all, it still missed.
Never again.
share replay?
Based on that then a competent pilot shouldnt die to 120 spam.
And a better pilot is holding those missiles to maximise kill potential. The 25km range
Bringing parity to the R-77-1 and Aim120.
Ohhh you’re baiting me for the purpose of being inflammatory and not actually reading what I’m saying. I’m not going to engage with you anymore, have a good one.
10/10 bait btw, I totally thought you were being serious. Good job.
No, wtf are you on about? Sure the bvr platform matters. Planes more suited to bvr are going to be better at it. The drag on the r77-1 is so high that even launched from above mach 1.5 at 10km it simply doesn’t have the range the aim120, nor the same speed in terminal.
you can try shooting at 25km but a competetive pilot wont have a problem notching those, it will be at WVR where you are forced to face off and cant notch and at same time defend from ir missiles
Weird, if you look on the radar screen does it have the dashed line until at 16km it has the full line?
Like this:
yeah its range is worse but its not as crazy as people make it seem, a shot that the aim120 will hit an r77-1 will hit also 9/10 times
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Its pretty drastic actually. Have you used the missile yet?
Let’s see if you can figure out whether I did something wrong or what. It’s the first time I use TWS in like years, so maybe I am just not getting it yet, hahah.
I was also killed in a pathetic way because I was tunel-visioned on the TWS testing, so ignore that xD
I was having 2-0 matches until I decided to test this TWS thing, ugh.
I don’t know, let’s see if you can see it!
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/321492067478542504
EDIT: I just watched it to remember, and I can see I ended up losing my patience, switching to SRC PD, and getting the kill with it lmao. I should have just gone with that so that I would not have died while fooling around with TWS…
yes the su30sm was the first jet i got in the update and i hit 30km shots pretty regularly, but at the end of the day a maneuvering target at 40km is most likely gonna evade your missile regardless of what you shoot at them so its hardly a real advantage
I haven’t had nearly the same experience in bvr with the missile you have then.
i find the best ways to use bvr missiles is to shoot them at players not trying to do bvr, players below you rarely evade and usually hope multipathing saves them instead of notching. i rarely hit players at alt with either missile
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Of course 2 equal pilots it reverts to guns
Missiles do not have NEZ modelled and everthing even the 120 can easilly be multipathed.
Watched your replay. You did everything right, he just notched your missile. If he didn’t notch it, it would have worked fine. The same would apply at any range you fried it outside of 16km.
Oh, I see, thanks! I may try again later.
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