The difference though, is that LDIRCM was akin to only giving one of the 3 typhoon nations AESA and then considering it balanced Vs the other s M-scan. The difference in balance is significant
another complaining post about AMK being a modification for ALL eurofighters while the AESAs arent.
Come on man
and to think this stupid argument wouldnt be happening if gaijin wasnt so unnecessarily stubborn in their stance to NOT understand that FOV =/= FOR.
and that no source states FOR was reduced. FOV is 90 for across ALL ECRS marks
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So the non american 64Es can recieve an ahistorical upgrade that vastly improves them over their realistic implementations but the german EFT can not even get one that would only add a measly 10 degrees?
really gaijin only want balanc to ad for nations armament and dircm what no have irl?? and this no need to be realistic huh?? but for eurocopter no want to ad another 4 pars or ircm because irl ho have it no? this is balanced… much time fly in eurocopter the mi28 and chinese heli kill me from enemy helipad but i no have range for fire… but this is balanced…
CIRCM is not the same a 20 less gimbal
One is major for performance and the other is not
All the countries that operate the eurofighter will be able to buy it in 2028 and as far as I’m aware those other two countries haven’t decided yet because its still in dovelopment currently ONLY germany has it and is using it.
But it would not.
I don’t understand why you think that AMK would be a tiny upgrade. It would be massive.
The difference between ±90 and ±100 on the radar needs nearly no balance adjustments.
AMK Vs non AMK would require the AMK typhoon to be a notably higher BR. German typhoon would be the best by a significant margin. Only way that would be balanced is by removing AESA from it or giving gen 5 IRs to the others to compensate
Yes i know it would be but so is LDIRCM for Helis that dont have them.
We can turn around the argument as long as we want but the german EFT gets neither AMK nor a 100 degree radar making it objectively worse than the other EFTs. Meanwhile all 64Es get ahistorical LDIRCM (and JAGMs) due to balancing. Thats plain and simply a double standard.
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The difference between having LDIRCM and not is akin to having AMK Vs not or AESA Vs not.
It’s a HUGE difference.
The difference between CAPTOR-E performance is tiny. It would be akin to the US Apache getting and extra few CMs or something. Is it strictly speaking better? Yes, is it a game breaking balance difference? No
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The only reason there is a problem here is because Gayjin is willing to give the Italian and British Eurofighter modifications they don’t have/don’t use and can’t get but not willing to do the same for Germany by giving it the extra degrees on the radar that they don’t have/don’t use and can’t get.
Yes exactly the 64Es can get a massive ahistorical upgrade for balance and germany cant even get a 100 degree radar?
The point is that Gaijin is pulling ahistorical bs out of their backside for balance for everyone except for germany that has multiple valid options to get a balancing buff
Im fine with reasonable ahistorical additions for balance purposes but not if theyre added selectively
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Not sure whats funnier here. Germans asking for absurd airframe performance because having -10 less gimbal on a radar, or that gaijin only cares to share germany tech when it’s just exclusive to them but never the opposite.
For sure the second one.The first one is just a crashout because of the second one.
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theres nothing exclusive about the german AESA typhoon tho, its identical other than 10 degree of gimbal that doesnt matter
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“Its identical except that it isnt”
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You will NOT be able to tell the difference in matches. so in a practical sense its identical. Stop pretending that war thunder is that extremely deep in play
can still track things directly to its left or right so it couldnt matter less
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Can we at least stop with this blatant lie? Its not a coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb sitation but acting like the difference between 90 and 100 degrees specifically is a complete nothingburger is so insanely disingenuous
its disingenuous to claim its anything more than a nothingburger.
If we are going to larp and say that the radars are very different then im going to demand the better tracking that is gained from the mk0 over the mk2