How do you people even enjoy playing this gamemode?

Well, I agree that the term is not optimal, but it is generally understood. Also other terms are used wrong, if you look at it in detail. AI vehicles for example are not really AI, they’re just scripted non player vehicles.

Generally however the community uses PvP and PvE - and some also PvPvE - with a common understanding of the term.

The common understanding however is not so common when it comes to what is allowed and what not, but also this is actually very clear - or at least very simple:

  • Engaging non-player vehicles and targets while trying to avoid enemy contact to protect oneself is perfectly ok.

  • Claiming a room/match is PvE and forming a truce between opposing forces to not engage each other is not ok.

  • Enforcing a room/match is PvE by harassing players who ignore this “truce” verbally or with gameplay actions is absolutely not ok.

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Yes, I agree with all three, but may I ask a few more questions?
First, when I encounter behavior that falls under 2 and 3, I report it, but is this appropriate?
If the answer is yes, then in the case of 2, there is no specific context, and in many cases there is implicit collusion by simply saying “PvE”. Even in such cases, do the administrators treat it as a clear violation?
The reason I would like to ask this is because I am worried that by continuing to report incidents that the administrators deem legal, I may be punished for making a false report.

Another thing I would like to ask is about how you respond if you discover a community that is colluding using social media or voice chat tools outside of your service.
Especially on the SA server, farming is taking place without a single traitor even though more than 20 players are participating in the match. This is despite the fact that no one is saying anything in the game chat.
Even considering that they have a tacit understanding, it is an unnatural level of cooperation for people who just happen to gather together.
I have personally been investigating this, and have not yet found anything, but I am pretty sure that there is a community somewhere on the Internet that is advertising itself, gathering people, and colluding with others to carry out this act.
If you witness such a situation, is there anything you can do to help us?

Yes, it’s appropriate to report it.

Mabye give a bit more than just “PvE”, maybe “trying to enforce PvE” or so. However, that’s secondary. Primary is the automatically generated chatlog itself which contains all the proof we need to decide whether indeed a rule has been broken.

In my experience roughly 95% of all erports we get are invalid. That doesn’t mean that the reporter then gets punished instead.

Where we draw the line is if it’s really report spam, meaning that the same observation is reported several times, or non-issues are reported repeatedly. There are players who will send a handful of reports every time they think they see a cheater, but with zero basis for it, or even may get verbally abusive themselves in the reports.

Nothing wrong with sending one report per observed suspicion. No need or use to send more than one.

You can ask yourself: “Does the chat I’read in the chat window show a forbidden behaviour or content?” If Yes, report, if no, there’s nothing we can do about it anyway. If not sure, still report, we will sort it out…

We can’t act on external channels of course, but extreme and/or organised cases should still be reported in-game, if there’s any proof something can be done.

Note that the more severe and frequent a player or a group of player acts against the TOS, the more he will get reported, and thus the higher probability of course that they will “wash into our nets”.

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I understand it well now.
I will share this valuable information with my colleagues.
Thank you for your thoughtful response.

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I don’t report anything, if Gaijin wanted, just by passing a script over the chat logs, they could find all people in 2 and 3 categories, but those people buy premiums, and they don’t wanna do anything, even if it’s against the ToS

No. Won’t work. Too much is contextual. Like this you may catch the obvious swearwords, that’s about it.

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Like maybe 50%, but they prefer not to catch it ?

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Doesn’t fit my experience…

Many people join the math and say “Pve” or “Pve?”.
Others give their airfield positions.

I could do an script that would detect many cases in 30 mins

You should be aware of the friendly aircraft you have in your side before takeoff to avoid team kill.

The major issue for me is they set advanced highly mobile SAMs from 90s/2000 to face 50/60s fighters!

The second Con. Is the outdated Tactical map. Those Tactical map is like watch on a XV century map at Pirates times.

They must stop spend work time in new vehicles and seriously update the Tools Used by players in battlefield and remake all SB missions please.

You are just contradicting yourself.
Playing purely PVE even setting up games where you demand PVE is not for “active participants”

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Then don`t fly close to the airfield!
It aint harder than that

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Should I make a video showing you the Roland and Strella-10 on open battlefield. They are on the available vehicle list to use on the place to attack with older fighters.

I know about that as i tend to play SIM.
The BR brackets is fine the way it is imo.
If you are desperate to play the F-100 then play Air SIM?

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Legit every top tier air sim match is just F-16 and F-15’s camping airfield.

Team killers are usually accidental in Sim, but not always.

What you mean with Air Sim?

You have ground sim where you can tanks, planes and helis in the same match.
Then you also have a own air sim mode for planes only.

The mode you are coping over is ground sim.
I see you have very few matches in WT, so try out the gamemodes to see what you like.
The F-100 is probably quite ok in it`s BR bracket in air sim (9.0-10.0) as you can hunt down attackers and bombers using its speed

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I made a tutorial.

Please read it. I tried to make it as simple english as I could think:

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Using this solution you could end up with PVP players getting banned for saying “I don’t like PvE”, or the team looking through the reports would be flooded with logs of every single instance of someone saying “PvE” and have to look through each of them to see if it’s a case of people trying to enforce PvE, or if it’s just 2 random guys telling each other “dang we both picked bombers, guess we’re stuck doing PvE”, depending on how automated the system would be

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