How are they actually going to balance the F-117

there is such a thing as undertiering and its “putting a stealth aircraft at a BR where nothing can effectively counter it because missiles don’t exist yet”
don’t forget, the f-117 was SPECIFICALLY designed to also minimize it’s IR signature as well as it’s radar signature

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I cant think of any other aircraft that has no CMs, No Guns and no AAMs. WIth a limited A2G loadout.

Buc S1 at 8.7/9.9 (ARB/ASB) is the closest I can think of. Im guessing the F-117 though would perhaps get some kind of damage multiplier vs bases?

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a premium A-10A and Su-25K wallet warrior could never fathom logic my brother

i literally don’t know how they’d add it in a remotely playable fashion that is actually somewhat balanced around what it may face.
i don’t think they should add it at all. it seems like the kind of aircraft that players in fighters should be escorting, not playing as

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True. :D

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What radar missiles exist at 8.x outside the Vautour? Oh right, none.
Radar missiles are not and have never been the only threat.
Guns and IR missiles are a threat, and stealth doesn’t do anything against those.
The engines spew the IR signature upward which again doesn’t matter with aircraft fired IR missiles.

You are over-estimating F-117’s capability, by far.

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A lie told often enough may become the truth. But we’re not there yet.

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I was expecting it as an event maybe, just to test stealth but for the most part to be a meme aircraft. One only rarely seen in Sim and occasionally in ARB

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and was essentially unceremoniously retired from frontline service shortly afterwards.

Put it this way
the least accurate thing of the trailer was the F-117 saving US top tier ground

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People should stop lying about the 2S6. It hasn’t been as good as ADATS since April 2023.

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You’re not wrong. I was just commenting on their performance in DS that left much to be desired (but not really their fault, it was the first use)

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🤣 ok bud, agree to disagree

not talking about radar missiles, i’m talking about radar detection.
the issue isn’t necessarily shooting it down, it’s finding it to shoot it down. below a certain BR, besides visually, that is virtually impossible. and you still need to catch up to the paveway slinging stealth aircraft that’s at 7km up. to even begin to try to shoot it down

Radar detection does not matter in air RB.
You know how often I used my Mirage 3C’s radar? 3 times at most due to one last guy.

Finding the F-117 is as easy as finding any other bomber in the game.

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Similar state to A-4E Early in grb, if the pilot doesn’t descend he will be basically untouchable by gun SPAAs at its br

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I dont think its that big of an issue.

in ARB, most dont even have radar to begin with at 8.7

And in GRB its hard to place it above 10.0/10.3? Where I may be using something like the Hunter for CAP which doesnt even have a radar to begin with.

I think the Stealth will be a gimmick and the funny thing is that it will mostly face aircraft that dont even have radars. Only slightly concern is something like the Stormer HVMs IRST not getting a lock “if” they model the IR sig stuff right, which they havent on most aircraft

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I may need to remind you that I am a sim player

yes in RB you can just see it. unless (because stealth) they make the name not show up until you’re super close to it.
In sim, you can’t. You NEED the radar. So the F-117 can just zombie mode to the enemy base and then come back over and over because no one can actually find the damn thing

You’ll note the category of this topic:
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it would be a pain for the F-117 tho, only 1000 km/h and can only carry 2 bombs per run

I will also note that someone said this exact same thing earlier

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And besides, RB is basically general discussion with the way it affects every gamemode