Jaguar:
Supersonic
Has guns
Has Aim-9Gs
2 Guided bombs
10.7
Bucc:
Subsonic
No guns
Aim-9Ls
3 guided bombs
10.7
F117:
no A2A armament
subsonic
2 guided bombs
Uhh no. A-4E is a far better comparison to F117 than the Jagury or Buccy
I believe he was talking about the S.1
Subsonic
No guns
No missiles
8 dumb bombs (I think?)
8.7
In GRB, was comparing A2G payload more than airframes for rough placement. In ARB then Buc S1 is a fair comparison.
My bad, but honestly in GRB the F-117 could come at maybe 9.7 ish ARB definitely no higher than 9.0. I’m not really happy with it coming at all, stealth WILL ruin this game.
2x 2K GBUs vs SPAAG would just be broken. Totally OP with no counter, the A-4E at least has to somewhat attack and get in range of SPAAGs. Even at 9.3/9.7 most dont have a counter outside of CAP.
At 10.0/10.3 the F-117 should reliably get bombs off, but also cant just AFK safe from SPAA
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Again it’s only 2 bombs, and you sacrifice EVERYTHING else. 2 kills is not OP
I want to see what stealth will do / how it will work and F-117 is the weakest possible test platform for it.
Also the IR reduction stuff might translate into an IR overhaul which would massively buff aircraft like the Harriers.
So its a net gain. Just needs to be at a fair BR for GRB, which is gunna be the tricky thing
I guess so, but I feel like gaijin is going to stuff it up. I would rather it be an april fools event or such.
We do need this but I feel like the F-117 is just going to have a low IR signature like the F-5C
2 kills is not OP, the ability to get in, kill two people, then rearm is. But only at a BR that it works.
Well… At the moment its due to the low thrust of the F-5 and not inherrently a conscious choice by Gaijin. At least that is what im hoping. If they add the ability to artificially raise and lower it. Then Harrier’s coukd see a buff and the F-5s can see a nerf. Win win.
Eh F-117 has about double the thrust of the F-5C so I’m expecting double the missile lock thingy (idk what to call it but you understand). I am really not expecting gaijin to do a whole new IR overhaul just because of that. Hoping for it though
You seem to have forgot the Harrier is a British jet… and the F-5 is American
True… Unfortunately
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I personally would say BR 10.7 ish
Again, it’s really not different from A-4E, and it sacrificies a TON for the rather small bomb upgrade
For air? The same BR as the SU-25? You know, with them being ROUGHLY the same speed, with the SU-25 having better loadouts and all aspect IR missiles that will destroy it in 80% of cases?
Maybe 10.7 for air battles and 9.7 for ground?
Try, 8.3 for air and 9.7+ for ground
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Yeah… the SU-25 is better in every way… 9.7 ground I agree with though, because there’s no markers. Just compare the F-117 to the Buccaneer S.1 and then see how similar they are and the Buccaneer is at 8.7
Then fact that virtually none of the SPAAs can even engage you is absolutely broken.
Free kills and reloading is broke.
With Gaijins record with bombs I’ll say 2 possible kills.