The entire aircraft is going to be niche, so I just see them giving it some minor benefit of the doubts like a very weak RWR over none at all.
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Probably for gaijin to test stealth mechanics
My guess is 9.3. Not sure how well this thing is going to be. You get two bombs so maybe 400RP per run and 800 SL ? maybe fun in arcade battles but defiantly not something to use to grind with in rb or sim. Overall i dont think this will really be a fun addition.
Yeah. It would be like countermeasures to simulate its being hard to lock/maintain, technically not really historically accurate but it’s still a game and we’re limited by the engine/interface so it’s not perfect.
Who said overpowered? I certainly didn’t, but at the bare minimum it’s going to be 12.0, at the highest it should be 13.0 if it cannot fight back.
But I don’t have full knowledge of all of its capabilities tbf.
Something of a fair BR. I don’t think ZSU-23-4 or Gerard’s or anything will have a chance in hell of hitting it.
It’ll be like the A-4E all over again… but worse.
What are the other weapons the su-34 has? Idk much about it other than it’ll be a good multirole.
But 8.7 for the F-117 still seems low for a fairly fast (compared to other 8.7 planes), and will have probably FNF bombs.
We shall see what the gaijin gods to I guess
You are confusing ARB with GRB. They can and almost certainly will have a different BRs, significantly different I’d imagine. This thread is mostly about ARB (look at the tags) and not GRB
Im basing 8.7 purely on the Buc S1s BR, which is 8.7 in ARB and 9.0 in ASB. In comparison to the Buc S1, the F-117 will likely be weaker.
As for the bombs. They may have IOG, but all bombs are FnF within the context of ARB when dropped on a base. Heck the Bucs all have a bomber sight and CCIP at the same BR. So not even anything special to the F-117.
GRB, Naturally would be higher, but probably no higher than the Jaguar GR1A which has 2x GBUs at 10.3, but its stealth/IR reducing kit plays a bigger factor in GRB
more realistically 9.3 or 9.7 for ground. it only gets 2 guided bombs and is slow
2 LGBs which have over 10km range when launched at lower altitudes.
Still two guaranteed kills in ground RB even at 10.3.
yeah, only 2. It’s not mcuh different from A-4E
Ah I didn’t see this is Air RB. I just saw the post in general.
Or even 11.3 it wouldn’t be hard.
I think It would be better to compare it with something like Jaguar GR1A or Buc S2B than an A-4E. At least personally, but really really comes down to how the stealth and IR reduction stuff is modeled. So… Wait till dev stream/Dev server?
isn’t Jaguar supersonic?
With bombs, not really. But more going by A2G weapons than Airframe performance. 2x GBUs + Thermal tracking Tpod.
Assuming the stealth/IR reduction works, then it should be able to get into a release point just as well as the Jaguar GR1A can, and its basically guaranteed kills all day long.
Also F-117 has 2k bombs whilst the Gr1A only has 1K bombs. so a slightly better A2G loadout as well.
Jaguar:
Supersonic
Has guns
Has Aim-9Gs
2 Guided bombs
10.7
Bucc:
Subsonic
No guns
Aim-9Ls
3 guided bombs
10.7
F117:
no A2A armament
subsonic
2 guided bombs
Uhh no. A-4E is a far better comparison to F117 than the Jagury or Buccy
I believe he was talking about the S.1
Subsonic
No guns
No missiles
8 dumb bombs (I think?)
8.7
In GRB, was comparing A2G payload more than airframes for rough placement. In ARB then Buc S1 is a fair comparison.
My bad, but honestly in GRB the F-117 could come at maybe 9.7 ish ARB definitely no higher than 9.0. I’m not really happy with it coming at all, stealth WILL ruin this game.
2x 2K GBUs vs SPAAG would just be broken. Totally OP with no counter, the A-4E at least has to somewhat attack and get in range of SPAAGs. Even at 9.3/9.7 most dont have a counter outside of CAP.
At 10.0/10.3 the F-117 should reliably get bombs off, but also cant just AFK safe from SPAA
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Again it’s only 2 bombs, and you sacrifice EVERYTHING else. 2 kills is not OP