J10 has really good low speed handling it pulls way better just do to the delta canard config
decents overselling it the C GE is 3rd worst 14.3 the 2and worse being POBIT and first being F18E
It still has a very mid flight model and bad CM count
CM counts not horible as the SU30SM has 78 its a good amount compared to J15T
J10 still in top 10 for dogfighting
Its not…
Based upon feb data (so pre-Aim120Ds)
its 5th best aircraft at top tier. Actually beating out the Su-30SM2 and German AESA Typhoon.
Now whilst that data does need to be taken with a pinch of salt, that rather solidly tells me that pre-buff, the F-15C GE could quite comfortably be 14.7 not 14.3.
It is definetly the best performing 14.3 in-game.
M-Scan Typhoons still have a terrible radar.
Gripen E is doing quite well, but lacks the high alt ability of the F-15C GE, and AMRAAMs only really work when fired high and fast
J-10C is quite poor, though waiting on a decent review since getting PL-12A
F-18E… enough said
Su-30MKM and Su-30SM are okay, but no where near the powerhouse that is the Su-30SM2.
So yeah. F-15C GE is definetly the best 14.3 at the moment, and is definetly stronger than at the very least the J-15 currently at 14.7
Very interested to see Aprils data, which will be a full month with it having Aim-120Ds
J10C is far better then CGE i have both PL12As are on par with R77-1s
its 16mile HMD is also really neat
gripen E is in same boat as the F16 due to lack of missiles except it can actually carry BOL pods without sacrificing hardpoints so its about on par with the F16C POBIT
the typhoon is still above the GE just due to it being basically better in every way FM wise as the Typhoon still has highest TWR in game
not even that bad actually radar qualitity is fine for the br Aesa doesnt really affect performance as much as people thought it would
Its the weakest radar at 14.0/14.3
Yes it does, for an M-Scan to provide even half the level of DL to an AESA, you have to hard lock the radar.
Also the M-Scan on the Typhoon barely would find a target im pointing it straight at. the AESA just finds it instantly.
The difference between M-Scan and AESA is massive
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thats a crazy take
typhoon FGR.4 has 1.19 kills per death
F15 CGE 1.07 KPD
grippen E has 1.14KPD
F18E has .86 KPD
F16C pobit has no stats yet
britain also has highest winrate at 14.3 btw only closely trailed by sweden
Would be pretty difficult to do :p Not exactly a plug and play situation
pod? So no MAW on a naked F-15EX? Looool
Edit: after a quick search, it should have 360 RWR, but no MAW like Eurofighter/Rafale does. Oof
Ehhh. By the time something like the F-15EX comes we’ll be an update or so away from Meteor missiles so it’s nothing to worry about in the short to medium term
Based upon Jan and Feb Data
none of the M-Scan Typhoons have a positive K/D. The most up to date data from feb, the data is:
F-15C GE: 1.19
Gripen: 1.0
FGR4: 0.97
J-10C: 0.97
F-18E: 0.92
Su-30SM2 is currently at 1.17
German AESA is at 1.11
Italian AESA is at 1.21 (Italian Typhoon is the one I use for the “average” data point for the Typhoons, its a good middle ground between balanced MM and not a major nation)
You are using global stats the dont really reflect the actual current game. For example, that fails to factor in the buffs the F-15C GE got in Decemeber or the fact that the M-Scan typhoon wasnt playing at a huge disadvantage for a chunk of 2025.
Su-30SM has 98 LARGE calibre countermeasures.
J-10C is 72 medium caliber.
That is pretty bad.
J-15T is even worse.
J-10C also has a very low fuel load which doesn’t let you keep your speed high very well.
Fairly certain its the BAE pod that adds that
*hopefully
We are still waiting for SAL Brimstone 2s
SM2 has 98 SM1 has 78 if i remeber correctly
Go look in game right now.
You’re wrong.
All flankers besides Su-33 and J-15 have 98x large calibre countermeasures.
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Use mountainous terrain as a cover against missiles
??? pl12 launch has been buggy for like half a year now
Its bad.
The only TT vics that I have unlocked and are left un-spaded/ never to be played are the j10C and ALL the TT US vics.
Pobit, GE and the f18E are just not it. Further down the line we have one of 2 f16s(C) that are worth playing in the entire game, add the f14 and that is all she wrote. 2 vics that are nowhere near meta but are still fun.
The rest of the available vics are outmatched by the same in other trees that sit at the same BRs but are just better. EG, f15jm, f18 MLU Sweden and f16 MLU china
US is a dead tree
There is.
This is very funny to me since basically nothing has changed in ARB in over a year. Yeah we got some bad new airframes and some incremental upgrades to some weapons and radars but that’s about it. Also funny you mention France in this top tier air context since the only thing they got since the Rafale is a worse Rafale.
Simply untrue.
“We”? Who’s “we”?
Everyone is going to miss most of those high alt long range shots since everyone has figured out how to defeat ARH missiles. People flying high wouldn’t be doing so if they didn’t figure out how to notch and people flying low have thicker air, multipathing and terrain to defend themselves.
Did you let the enemy get too close to you while you were defending?
Only MICA has a different seeker amongst the modern ARHs we have in game
Player stats != vehicle capabilities
Nothing is stopping you from doing the same.
Unlikely
You know you can stop worrying about a missile after you notch it and it goes past you?
no comment
Crazy to put Isreal here with Britain
You have ~270 hours in battle which is more like 11 days. Not that much considering you have been playing it since 2021.
USA was one of if not the best nation majority of the time since 2021 IIRC.
Not sure what system you are referring to but I agree.
So F-22 won’t save USA now?
Very true. I will like to point out that we have much more variation now compared to USA ↔ USSR swing we had years ago.