Horrible game play for air rb

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This past year with fox 3s,new missles,new radars, and new top tier aircraft has almost completely ruined air rb for people who main anything but Russia France or china. They have the best flight models in game for absolutely no reason they have better tech better missles better radars pretty much are superior to any country.

Why is it that they get new tech missles and radars while as America gets stuck with Cold War and 1900s technology where we can’t do anything in a game but either rise and try our absolute hardest to get one missle to hit or two stay insanely low to the ground and dodge missles the entire game then get smacked by a pl-12 or r-77 or mica after we defended them for 13 minutes straight but they have the battery life of a nuclear reactor. But when it comes to America it’s way different with our missles their the easiest to notch the easiest to chaff easiest to survive even if your flying in a simple straight like (happened to me last game)you want us to sit here and believe that Russian bias isn’t a thing or that you’ve updated America but if you look at the stats Russia and France our on top by a far shot in kd and win rate and not far behind is china.

Russian mains get to climb shoot 15 missles at an entire enemy fleet and get to restock on missles and do it again where they’ll get 6 kills or more from doing that. It’s like those three nations mainly Russias missles get to chase us all game long until we finally give up or decide to even try and fight back when we don’t stand a chance in our flight models, or in our missle models (btw stop trying to make us use our 120s as aim 7s) I can’t even get a kill with the c-5 without having a hard lock but when Russia or china or France goes on tws and soft locks they get to crank and be perfectly fine and get the kill. I’m tired of Russian mains saying it’s a skill issue when it’s not they sit there spamming missles all game then they get to crank turn around and dodge all our with one flare/chaff.

I’ve seen it in ever single match I’ve played and it’s frustrating you want us to keep playing this game but you don’t even know how to please your audience and not make a nation so overpowered and yet you have ignored all bugs haven’t even touched sim in years.

Players haven’t made the missle spamming meta a thing it was YOU GAJIN you have made this game toxic and not fun at top their for anyone as an American main or even Britain or Israel which is crazy knowing Israel has the same flight models as the US. I have 31days 3hours and 16min on this game and I’ve had it since 21 but i had to stop playing it because of how toxic this game truly is at top tier and how countries who you gajin have overpowered.

This game system is horrible and this game frankly needs to be fixed.you can’t add fith gen fighters if this is how you treat it and its players who don’t pay or aren’t on a meta team. Btw meta team shouldn’t my even be a thing its a war game for god sake. Fix your game gajin im tired of it.

I’ve said it over and over again. Its not just me its plenty of other people who play this game and has had it for years. Now I could keep going and going on what’s wrong about this game but I hope yall see this and actually take it seriously because your game will never grow with the way fyall run it and it will soon decline if things that have been ignored after review and review haven’t been met.
SORRY FOR THE CLUSTER OF WORDS FIRST GO AROUND I USED MY PHONE NOT THE SMARTEST IDEA .

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Remove spaces between words to make it even more unreadable

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What am i reading squinting

EDIT : for the people (and myself) :

The writer is frustrated with the current state of top-tier Air RB, arguing that recent updates (new missiles, radars, and aircraft) have made Russia, France, and China overwhelmingly powerful compared to other nations—especially the U.S. They feel these countries have superior flight models and weapons, while American equipment is outdated and ineffective.

They complain that gameplay now revolves around constantly dodging enemy missiles, while their own missiles are easy to counter and rarely successful. The writer also believes statistics (win rates, kill/death ratios) show clear imbalance, and rejects the idea that it’s just a “skill issue.”

Overall, they feel the game has become unfair, repetitive, and unfun, blaming the developers for creating a “missile-spam meta,” ignoring issues, and failing to balance nations properly—leading them and others to stop enjoying or even playing the game.

EDIT 2 : oh wow, he also thinks there is a russian bias, even in ARB.

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Had to do all that on phone so couldn’t see what it looked like in formatting.

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It has been fixed

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LOL? J10C WHO?

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J10C is better than most none delta canards thats it so all F15s F16s SU-30SM/Maybe SM2 not 100%

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It’s not better than F-16s and Su-27 variants, not even the J-10A, which has a better dogfighting FM than the J-10C.

The J-10C is essentially an F-16 with worse STR but more top speed, similar acceleration to the block50.

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please tell me by what metric? less (and worse) missiles, less fuel, more drag, less engine power and a lower max speed? I have no idea how someone can be so delusional as to say a struggling 14.3 jet is better than maybe the BEST 14.7 jet in the game

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Tbf the J10C isn’t struggling at 14.3. Gets outclassed by 14.7s, but that’s to be expected.

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seems alot like what US mains have been doing since the F14’s introduction…

Its just that the usual shift in meta doesnt have anything to do with the US rn, totally normal.

Wait patiently or grind another tree in the mean time.

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Soviets… best flight model? lol
France is the only one mentioned among those that has a top 5 flight model.

Also, USA has a 2026 loadout F-15C currently. That’s not “1990s”. And both of those arguments aren’t relevant.

And yes, American air has the most under-BR’d aircraft in the game for a rather notorious reason: You can’t force a player to perform well with a good aircraft.

Su-30SM2 accelerates as quickly as F-15C GE, both aircraft can equally “spam missiles”, though why you would with either is beyond me.

My recommendation would be to learn how to BVR, or stick to BRs where BVR isn’t the focus.

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Hi

So, just to be clear: you think Russia, France and a China aircraft have the best flight models?

Depends on what metric you mean.

France has the Rafale with ridiculous acceleration and ITR, that’s to be expected. It’s a eurocanard, they’re designed to be able to instantly pull a lot at high (and really, any) speed.

Russia’s Su-30SM/SM2 can point its nose anywhere it wants but only at low speed, which makes sense as it has thrust vectoring.

China is in the same boat as other eurocanards, except unlike them it doesn’t have the acceleration nor missile/radar performance of the others.

BTW, if you think it’s bad now, 😬

USA top tier jets are between 2006-2020… the airframe design is from the 80s. It’s not Gaijin’s fault America decided to go in the opposite direction as it pertains to gimballed radars and instead focused on network-aided combat (i.e., Link 16), so in that regard you’ll always be struggling.

Next, AIM-120C-5/D also have “the battery life of a nuclear reactor”. Believe me, it’s just as annoying fighting off an AIM-120D that just won’t die for nearly 3 mins.

Finally, USA’s a very popular nation to play for new players. I would know, it was the very first nation I played. USA stats will always suck in comparison to other nations because experienced players often play niche nations (like Sweden, Germany) or literally just another nation.

I got tired of quoting paragraph by paragraph. Wall of text incoming.

All I can say is… they’re right. There is a skill issue here. You’re clearly frustrated and that’s understandable. If you think there isn’t an issue; you can simply wait like 2-3 updates and then confirm with what is likely to be the best aircraft in the game coming to your air tree.

Also, the “missile spam” thing all started with USA. it’s only recently everyone else caught on.

Didn’t bother reading the rest as it’s a ramble, but just take it easy man 🫩 It’s just a game and like every other game you could personally choose to take a break from it if it affects you that much. Screaming into the void will do nothing.

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The US has the most modern ARH missile in-game technically with the Aim-120D

Dont rely on MP, simple.

Whilst AMRAAM is definetly in need of TLC this is pure hyperbole.

So can the US with the F-15C GE?

That would be because people dont know how to defend half the time. That tactic should not work, only reason it does is because people dont know what they are doing.

If you are using an M-Scan then this might be the case, though it is equally the case for all M-Scans, for any E-Scan, including those on the F-15C GE and F-16C PoBIT this is not the case. It is simply the advantage of E-Scan.

Out of those 3 nations, only Russia has an E-Scan with high gimball. The other nations with it are the Typhoon nations (Britain, Germany and Italy) and The Gripen E (Sweden)

Yeah… They certainly need to accept they have one of the strongest aircraft at the moment, but US mains also need to accept that the F-15C GE is a perfectly acceptable top tier aircraft as well.

Its been a problem ever since the F-14 was added. But I think the issue isnt the aircraft, its the map design. Stick a load of players in a small area and of course the temptation to ripple off missiles will be there, though Ive never found that an actually good tactic for getting kills, except against AFK targets.

US has a pretty decent aircraft in the form of the F-15C GE. Britain has the Typhoon FGR4 AESA, needs a little TLC, but performs perfectly well. The only nation that has a legitimate excuse to complain at the moment is Israel who lack an E-Scan aircraft.

Conclusion

I like top tier, and it beats out the days of F-16s just steamrolling every lobby without counter.

Just need missile reports to actually be looked at, MP set to realistic heights and bigger maps

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The missle models and performance for yalls PL missles are overwhelming comparatively to the nerf of the aamrams.

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Eurofighter has the best flight model for dogfights
Rafale for air RB.

Best radar in the game is CAPTOR E. Mounted onto eurofighter

Multipath?
It won’t matter what radar missile you’re trying to multipath, it’s a pure gambling mechanic.

All Fox-3s (besides MICA and Fakour/pheonix) have the exact same seeker, making them all just as hard to defeat as any other besides the exceptions I have listed.
GNSS also does make your missiles harder to defeat when combined with TWS datalink (the US gets 12 of those missiles on the F-15C GE and hornet).

Currently, the F-15C GE is one of the best aircraft in the game at top tier. Lots of missiles (with GNSS too), lots of countermeasures and a decently quick airframe with AESA radar is really good for air RB right now.

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Pretty sure you just have skill issue.

The fact you don’t have much top tier experience doesn’t help either

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So America in this last update did get the 120d but I’ve heard it’s underperforming comparative to Russian and Chinese missles. I haven’t had a chance to test the Ds out I have every f-16 but that one so I don’t have experience to say how much better they are. And I don’t play the f-15s I can agree on the fact of the maps needing to be updated for top tier and the fact America does have the f-14 but now it’s not near as good as the su 30 which I see all the time. The f-15Cs I’ve clearly seen has diminished in its bvr battles from missles going haywire or to them just not hitting even if the enemy was flying straight. Whether some of those f15 mains is just skill issues or actual nerfs in capability of missles or a combination of both. But I have friends with 3000+ hours on this game who stopped even playing top tier air for America because of how underperforming and useless it is. I am also a f-16 main but it seems as if I can’t get an advantage to get close to anyone at least in the c because of the copious amount of missles that are spammed in the beginning and somehow me who stays back and doesn’t fly straight at an enemy and notches and multipathes till that first wave is done is a massive hotspot for missles in the very beginning where I have to defend for half my match and then as soon as I think I finally can attack I get slammed by a Su 30 or euro fighter or Rafale.

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Please man, paragraphs

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Wow, the one-trick pony plane is worse than something that’s undertiered and a higher br with a kit that actually is good for air RB?
Big surprise.

They most likely are just coping. Top tier US air is not that bad right now

This sounds like you don’t know how to defend from missiles properly and/or have bad positioning