if you’re using an A10 in air battles you shot yourself in the foot already. is also the one of the two only vehicles at those BRs slower than a harrier so very very good cherry-picking there
At the end of the day I don’t see the balancing issue with giving the T10 the same amount of CMs as the 8B NA.
😂😂 cherry pick???
Thanks for proving my point.
I’m glad you agree that the SUs and a10s are slower, and therefore easy pickings by all the other aircraft.
Don’t forget that CM from current BOL acts a bit weird.
After when JAS39 hits floor like 1987
guys remember, this is a post topic about the Type 74 and Harrier T.10. before a CM shows up to tell us. try to keep it relevant in comparison to the T.10. i can see random stuff being thrown about
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We are asking for two BOL pods not 4. 260 BOL, or essentially like 80 normal countermeasures equiv. AV8 NA has 180 standards so would still have a better number of CM technically
We arent being unreasonable in this at all
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180 isn’t too op, but it’ll still need to go up in br if that’s the case. Prob 12.0.
Which in sim is too often, and means more rewards, and wouldn’t kill it
No easy way to do that unfortunately.
T.12 could get a TERMA pod which brings it closer, but T.10 best bet is BOL.
Given the Gr7 was fine at what would now be 11.7 with 4x 9Ls and 4x BOL. 11.3 shouldnt be a big deal with 2x BOL. If BOL gets fixed and becomes its IRL strength. then 11.7 is fine too
well after the SU-25 and A-10, the harrier really is the next slowest thing at the BR. The T.10 is also the slowest one now due to the engine/airframe config!
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But it’s one of the highest acceleration planes in game. All the vtol aircraft are.
I am keeping it relevant. You cannot say X vs Y is unfair but say other systems don’t deserve their corrections.
corrections of other planes are not in the topic, this is a post dedicated to the launch of the T.10.
What is BOL missing that you “think” it really is?
Then why has the AV NA been brought up so much? It’s not in the topic.
Because it was used as a comparison
here is BOL im not sure what your question is
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Smin mentioned that this was the counterpart to the american AV8B (and yeah, it is. this is where the harrier program deviated between the MD harrier II and the British II harriers)
They are the most comparable aircraft and they should be balanced off each other, especially as its being added as a counterpart
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I have no idea what you’re actually asking but the T10 literally had BOL modelled (but not working) when the vehicle was first added. it was taken away causing this issue
BOL was nerfed and nerfed hard at the start of 2024.
It is modeled ahistorically for balancing reasons and should have a flare performance similar to that of large calibre flares but with a short burn time. Though its not really a flare. Instead its a large cloud of pyrophoric material that is designed to counter IIR seekers. Between its compact nature / large CM counts and highly effective nature vs most IR threats. Its one of the best CM systems in the world.
Gunjob has a bug report in for BOL flares to be restored short-term to what they were (mostly) before the nerf which was standard calibre flares. But in the future, the “flares” should be much stronger:
BOL chaff also wasnt unaffected and its mass was reduced by 75%. Some speculation whether the standard chaff packet used for all aircraft includes the casing weight or not, but if it does and if the stats for the BOL chaff does as well, then any difference is mass is due to BOL having a plastic casing and not a metal one like the soviet one does. If it doesnt then BOL Chaff is about 18% less than regular chaff, but far from the 75% reduction its gotten
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/B8OvCzjZ7E91
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My question is what does BOL do that is so impressive?
Both are Harrier IIs at the same BR. It is literally as close of a comparison as you can get. Its like comparing the Mig-23ML to the Mig-23MLA
Give the Harrier T.10 (the one we are talking about) more flares (the IR countermeasures you use to decoy missiles). with BOL is approximately regular 140 countermeasures (320 BOL is about 1/4 the strength of a regular flare) and for the math geeks, 320/4 = 80. 80 + 60 (internal) = 140) still less then the AV8B(NA)
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