It does. Its the matter if plane gonna shoot you into pieces with 20 mm or not.
don’t 20mms have 40+mm pen? Also, on the other variants, the hull roof is still ~26mm, so they can still kill the driver, and set you on fire.
It goes from 125 mm to 180 mm on the later models. On the Tiger H1, it is an actual weakspot, but not on the late Tigers.
Besides, brushing this aside when you’re focusing so much on the turret roof not being stronger when it is already strong is highly biased.
So we agree that small changes shouldn’t make a tank a higher BR? Stuff like a single, relatively meaningless 7.92 mm for the commander and a turret roof armor improvement on already strong turret roof armor?
Sure, it’s the worst of the 6.0 versions, but that doesn’t mean it should go to 5.7. Besides, you don’t decide what a “main difference” is.
The cupola improvement alone makes this tank significantly better than the Tiger H1 as it is the main weakspot in that tank, which is simply not nearly as viable in the later Tigers.
Acceleration is generally more important that pure top speed, and typically is what determines how actually mobile a tank is. The M4A3 (76) is more mobile than the M4A2 (76) despite the fact it has lower top speed of 42 km/h instead of 46 km/h. This is because the A3 has 500 horsepower, but the A2 has only 410, so even with lower top speed, it generally travels at a higher average speed than the M4A2 because it gets up to speed significantly faster.
In the case of the Heavy Tank No.6, you just have a flat horsepower increase over the H1 with no top speed difference. That means the mobility is plain better.
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Depends which 20 mm ofc. Japanese ones at the Br have 29 mm
Still it is premium and very rare one. Premiums generaly have lower br than standard or are better than standard. Which heavy tank n.6 is neither. While hungarian have that bit of armour better than 6.0 in german tech tree and then there is premium porshe tiger whith its 200 mm front that is still 5.7. So yeah it very much should be 5.7 as well.
“Generally” won’t work. There’s plenty of examples where this condition you’ve set isn’t met.
Premium Typhoon Mk Ib sits at an identical 4.3 BR in realistic to the tech tree Typhoon Mk Ib/L, yet is objectively inferior due to a weaker engine.
Similarly there’s many “copy paste” premiums that share BRs with their tech tree counterparts, such as the premium M18, M4A3E2, M46, Comet, T-34 prototype and 1st Guards Tank Army, IS-2 “Revenge” (which, for a good while, was objectively the worst IS-2 (1944) because it had worse LFP track armor coverage and no .50 cal), so on.
There’s premiums that are better than their tech tree counterparts. But there are also premiums that are identical to their tech tree counterparts. And there are also premiums that are worse than their tech tree counterparts.
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I tryed to suggest Ohka a while ago did not pass the moderation check yet. Imma try again soon.
Honestly, all the Tiger 1s should be 5.7.
There is nothing that special about them besides the gun. Even if you angle the plate behind the tracks wil say nuh-uh and absorb any shell at 5.0 and above.
This is just the classic case of rewarding bad players and BR compression.
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Agreed. There are way bigger issues in Br of japanese tanks tho. Just like the Ho-Ri here which is just pure nonsence to be at 7.3 with Jagtiger at 6.7
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Suggested it. @GuardOfTheSquare
https://forum.warthunder.com/t/yokosuka-mxy-7-ohka-the-rocket-kamikaze/65155
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i find no issue with 6.0 for Tiger E variants Like Tiger E, Tigris, and Heavy Tank NO.6 but in the Japanese tigers care it needs the hull S-mine launchers removed so the gun can actually traverse like the other two can…
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