In addition to the armor penetration of the projectile, we are missing the presence of a semi-automatic loader on the vehicle. The rate of fire of the anti-aircraft gun from which the semi-automatic loader was taken is about 20 rounds per minute, while the projectile of the original anti-aircraft gun is 1.5 times heavier.
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To understand the effect of its operation: after a shot, using the recoil energy, the gun will independently eject the cartridge case, load the projectile from the tray and again fold the tray back to its original position, without human intervention. Before the tray returns to its original position, a shot is not possible. All the man has to do is place the new projectile in the tray.
This not very cheap system was integrated due to the fact that the weight of the projectile with charge could cause inconvenience to the loader, while the rate of fire was considered a very important parameter. It was expected that for one Ho-Ri there would be at least 5 units of enemy armored vehicles on the front, that in this regard it is conceptually somewhat similar to late German armored vehicles.
Due to the urgency of the work, the semi-automatic loader was not invented “from scratch”, but was taken and adapted from the 120 mm Type 3 anti-aircraft gun
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200mm @ 1000m is for the 105mm AP round when fired at 1000m/s
105mm AP
Ballistic Factor = 2800
1000m/s at 0m
822m/s at 1000m
Do you know what’s funny?
You know how the Japanese 75mm Tokku Ko AP has
118mm @ 0 yards
100mm @ 500 yards
Penetration when fired from Type 3 75mm
Or how it has 161mm @ point blank range when shot from Type 5 75mm after deforming as I’ve been ranting this entire time?
When I use the Japanese Tokku Kou AP quality as reference, I get 200mm @ 1000m (822m/s) penetration for the 105mm AP
Conclusion
Type 5 105mm
Type 2 APHE
1000m/s at 0m
822m/s at 1000m
Penetration:
264mm @ 0m (0) [302mm if it didn’t deform]
111mm @ 0m (60)
200mm @ 1000m (0) [228mm if it didn’t deform]
87mm @ 1000m (60)
105mm Experimental - 916m/s
Type 2 APHE
Ballistic Factor = 2800
Velocity at 0m = 916m/s
Velocity at 1000m = 753m/s
233mm @ 0m - 916m/s
176mm @ 1000m - 753m/s
As you may know the Japanese have the
Poor quality AP shells such as Type 1 APHE for 75mm and the high quality AP shell such as the Tokku Kou AP
Using the low quality AP 75mm as reference I got 150mm @ 1000m
Using the high quality AP 75mm as reference I get
175mm @ 1000m
When the high quality 105mm AP shell is shot at 1005m/s we get 200mm @ 1000m
I guess the question is do you want the high quality, high pen but at a much higher BR, or the low quality, low pen at the same or lower BR?
Lol the Ho-Ri’s are not even worth their BR.
The current Ho-Ri prototype is literally worse than jagdpanther in every way and yet it’s 0.7BR higher etc
If you give this thing 300mm of pen, it’s going up in BR guaranteed.
264mm @ 0m after the AP deforms for Ho-Ri production
Considering it’s already 7.3, it will stay there
The issue with including deformation is the standard slope modifiers. If you include deformation, the sloped performance is not historical. If you don’t include deformation, the flat performance may be too high, but the sloped performance is correct.
The long 75 mm only has 10 mm~ more pentration and worse sloped performance than the 75 mm found on Pz. IV from 3.3. I hardly see how the gun is “too good.”
Gaijin really hates Japan
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Gaijin hates every nation, just depends what you play.
This is not true, look at Germany getting their hand held every single update and the Soviets and US, basically everyone gets cool shit but not Japan, we still dont even have Betty bombers with Ohkas. There is nothing wrong with using manned kamikaze aircraft, Battlestations Pacific did this centuries ago and no one had a problem!
I’m not allowed to criticise Germany, and Russia wasn’t really on my mind.
I’m more concerned about the lack of unmammed guided weapons like the Ki-147 and Ki-148…
We have the Fritz X and we saw how unfun that was, id prefer a manned plane, copying the way Battlestations Pacific did it, allowing you to control the aircraft but leaving your bomber on autopilot until you hit your target.
What does bro mean by this…
Fritz X is a bomb, these are rockets. Their control would be closer to something like a Bullpup.
The Ohka is much more than a rocket, it is PILOTED. It would function the way these things did in battlestations pacific
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You are confusing them.
The Ki-147 was a radio guided bomb/missile with an 800kg warhead, the 148 was a smaller version of it with a reduced payload. (Edit because I confused the two lol)
There were also the Funryu Air-to-Surface missiles and the Ke-Go all of which were unmanned.
They came in way too late in the war and suffered a lot of mechanical problems that stopped them from reaching mass production.
