Ho-Ri Prototype and Production too high

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of course japanese players would never say that

Ho-Ri should be 7.7 but they need to fix the volumetric bug where if you hit the engine cover sheets, it doesn’t register the main armour.

hell no

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no.

The ho-ri while being a heavy td, can be penned by 90% of the things it see’s frontally, add on that the gun having just usable pen and struggles in uptiers, so while it’s speed and armour is a combo not many see at this br, you just need to stay calm and not panic, and the thing is pretty easy to deal with.

Also what do you mean by engine sheets. Do you mean the engine bay roof? The engine bay walls? That separate the driver and co drive and the gun crew from the engine bay, or the two metal plates protecting the exhaust system? Like there is a lot of things this could be referring any none of it makes sense.

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More.
I’ve counted how many tanks between 6.3 and 8.3 cannot penetrate the Ho-Ri prod. Casemate :
it’s 4 ( T-44FM, T-34 STP ( both USSR), T-20 and M4A3E2 76 (W) (both US).
all are 6.3, and 3 out of 4 have a stabilizater, making them still competitive against it; as soon as you shoot or tun a bit around, they have a very optimized reaction time to shoot your barrel.
Auto canons not counted ofc.

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For the effort, I’ll put the numbers : 267 tanks between 6.3-8.3.
26 auto-canons/AAA.
Out of the last 241 : 4 cannot pen 200mm (side armor of the Ho-Ri prod casemate.)
4/241 * 100 = 1.66 %.

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This post is as useful as the Machine Gunner in the Ho-Ri Production.

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The little square plates in front of the exhaust seem quite buggy. That’s probably it.

Now that I got it I don’t care if they remove it, until of course they put something similar in the place

So, if they remove it they should take it from you too then right?

They don’t take away vehicles that get removed…

CV 90105 TML for example got replaced by the better 90105 Cockerill XM8.

Panther II was still there for people who unlocked it, as well as the Tiger II mit 10.5cm, and Flakpanzer Coelian.

The R2Y2’s are still in game for gods sake.

the ho-ri “”“”“production”“”“” has the highest KD of any TT tank in the game (also notice how 4 out of the top 5 tanks were never built)

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that’s what I’m saying he’s a POS taking devils advocate of removing because he owns it. Now that he owns it he doesn’t care and will bich later if something similar pops up. Overall, he’s just a rat in this forum providing no value on a bias view.

It doesn’t mean anything from Sharkstat. No freaking noob I have ever met grinds Japan first. Statistics like this are as useful as the solid sock under your bed, zero. Japan is a tree mostly veterans grind later on resulting in most of their tanks having very good stats.

Good example of BR 3 this has no freaking armor and claps everyone because gamers have experience when playing it.

The day they will totally remove the German paper vehicles then yes

Imo they should. Gajin should be more comfortable removing features just in general. No1 would be too angry if their SL/RP and GE were refunded.

There are 14 tanks infront of him btw, they are just event/premium/gifts. Little explanation in here if you want

The list if you don’t want to hear it :
E-100: 5.28
Chi-Ha-Kai TD : 3.45
T20 : 3.05
KV-1B (Germany) : 3.04
IS-7: 2.95
Ka-Chi: 2.91
Kv-220: 2.90
Excelsior: 2.84
T-18E2: 2.79
Obj. 279: 2.74
A.C.I: 2.73
M3 Medium (Russia): 2.66
M26E1: 2.65
Mathilda MKII (Russia): 2.58
And then Ho-Ri prod. : 2.56.

And just to show you how statistics are useless :
E-100 is just another Maus. But it’s k/d is +2.96, aka the double.
Chi-Ha Kai TD is a copy paste with a twitch drop skin, of 2 very same Chi-Ha Kai (China and JPN).
They ahve a k/d of 1.06 and 1.26; While the TD have 3.45 (+2.2 / +2.4).
M3 Medium ?
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Copy Paste from the US one (0.9 k/d) , but with a k/d + 1.76.

In my opinion, players finally have experience around rank IV. So we could look to see the overall level of the players to see not what is the average k/D (too many tanks) but how many tanks have a k/d <1.
JPN: 17
US: 29
Germany: 43
USSR: 46
ITA: 22
SWE: 20
UK: 20
China : 26
FRA: 25
ISR: 25
There is 2 possible conclusions :
1- JPN have all the best tank by very far, and Germany / USSR have the absolute worst.
2- People is sub-nations are better player, and the average player is just there to enjoy and not grind.
And that is unexpected, but it is almost perfectly what is, in my experience, the worst to the best average player by coutries.
So can’t we say that… Most of the k/d of the Ho-Ri Prod is… from being experienced/good ?

Tier list of players in WT by country


Link to tiermaker.com

I have it too. Even when I didn’t have it I wanted it removed.

-minor nation finally getting a good tank lmao
-tanks that were removed years ago and anyone using them is very experienced

How can one even say that Ho-Ri Production is overtiered? Like man it’s one of the most braindead TD ingame.