Ho-Ri Prototype and Production too high

Yeah now i see that, thank you for your point. Tho its still about half a turret in height? Hellcat isnt small whatsoever.

They’re both fine where they are. Although at the time, Ferdinand moving from 6.3 to 6.7 was very unexpected. Ho-Ri Production has more an issue where when you get uptiered, suddenly there’s stabilized MBTs with big guns and HEAT-FS/APDS.

6.7 with comparable performance to 6.0s 🔥

Still lots of green there. And Why did you select pzgr as the shot?

Hellcat is definitely smaller. Easiest way to check it’s size in WIKI is “visibility”
That may apply only to arcade - but it’s a relative stat. It can be used to compare against other vehicles.

But you glossed over my main point - mobility. The m18 mobility allows it to get in a lot of flank shots and allows it to earn score from quick caps. It can drive circles around the M36 and most other enemies at its BR.
M18 has a high BR because of mobility.

Lots, but the entire mask is unpennable for as much as Panther xD

Because i myself use it preferrably. I showed the Panther as example of “better pen”.

Yes, but its not ELC AMX, its still pretty huge. As much as t-34-85 i would say.

M18 is definitely faster, but how MUCH faster? Especially after mobility nerf. You definitely can flank with the M36, tho not that effective by mobility but much more effective cannon wise. M36 is also not slow, and its still lower in RB for two battle rating steps. I would use M36 with the M18s and feel great!

So how much engine power are Hellcats supposed to have, honestly? Would giving them all the 500hp engines they actually used for the most part outside prototype stages really be that disruptive? If people are worried about them soaring in BR to insane levels, use that as an excuse to finally undo the terrible overkill nerfing of APCR which would enable the Super Hellcat to take on even a Maus with relative ease. If M304 shot could pen its accurate 317mm and spall well you could pen the turret and possibly lower plate unangled and easily pen the side across the map. The 76mm ones would be able to do both at closer ranged with their correct 250-ish millimeters of penetration on M93 shot.

They must have lower battle rating tho if we insist on making them higher - 500, yes

First of all, how exactly buffing APCR would benefit to lowering Hellcat`s battle rating?
Second of all, if they get working APCR, they would get even higher which is hilarious.

The point of buffing APCR is to fix a game-wide systemic problem and then make Hellcat BR raises from its accurate engine power a non-issue. If it has the capability to rise as high as 7.7 on the 90mm one with all ammunition types actually working, so be it.

Also, be glad Snail hasn’t yet added the entirely missing “Ersatz SAP” rounds America made for converting all of its 75-203mm HE rounds into SAP, the M78 Concrete-Piercing Fuse. Imagine those Hellcats overpressuring most things in side shots.