What every, you are still crying about having to not just aim center mass and profit like one, god forbid you need to rub 2 brain cells together to deal with something in this game.
If it’s the same complaint as the German mains then yes, it is equally worthless.
This is the “I can’t 1 circle a Zero in my P-47, NERF IT!” argument applied to a tank
Must’ve hit a nerve, with the last reply lol. mb I called you out on that, but not everyone’s a German main.
Because im totally crying about it rn, got my tissues right next to me. Just trying to make the game more enjoyable for most of the player base, but sorry for playing your game
I think it’s fine. Just wait until the hype dies down. It can easily be countered by a player who knows where to aim (aka transmission). It’s really funny when people shoot the flat part expecting to pen when they can just disable me for 40 secs and flank
Thank you for actually having a respectful response, instead of whatever was above lol. I think the main problem is the amount of people that are getting it just to seal club when “removed”
Which in turn just ruins the br range it’s at for everyone else involved
Tell your self what ever you like Mr not a German main whose most played tank is the Gepard as a tank destroyer. Tell me all I need to know about the pointlessness of continuing this conversation.
Good luck with your quest to ruin any ounce of tactical game play left in War Thunder.
Then we will have to move the Ferdinand with it. The Ferdinand is arguably a way better vehicle, but sits at the same BR as the prototype. Not to mention almost everything can frontally pen the Ho-Ri Prototype at its BR, at even 500meters. The production variant is only deadly in a down tier, but becomes average at its own.
After its gone you will see it start twiddling down. When the T58 went on sale I avoided that BR like the plaque. It’s just part of the game might not be enjoyable to you but they’re definitely enjoying it.
A. You rarely ever saw them and now you’re seeing them every match because players are killing you in it so here we are.
B. You don’t have the basics down of D.I.E protocol for when you don’t know your tanks or where to shoot.
C. A tiger 1 can easily destroy the Ho-Ri just have patience, don’t cross without looking both ways and don’t play the luck game. If a Ho-Ri kills you, you already lost the engagement BEFORE it even happened.
WW2 ho-ri vs tanks with stabiliser and sometimes apsds, yeah, good idea, by the way ferdinand is so good and there is so many of them, so +0.3 br sounds logical
That is what, the 10th topic for it ?
They are mainly created by some people that have no idea how to deal with armor.
They would not have appreciated the toptier against Maus back in the days lol
These topics even existed for the Tiger II til the IS-2 Mod 1944 received Br-471D which allowed it to reliably pen the cheeks even at 1km. That shell also allowed the Is-3 and 4 the ability to pen the Maus’s cheeks, and turret sides/rear. Before that you had to hull shot the maus from the side at fairly close range to reliably take them out or hope for a magical trap shot.
So can the SU-100, what are we talking about? This is a tank destroyer at a higher BR than you, it would be nonsense if it couldn’t pen you.
The only Ho-Ri you’re gonna see in a Tiger I is the prototype, since the production is 7.3. You absolutely have the mobility to flank it in a Tiger E thanks to the improved engine. It will be harder in a 5.7 Tiger but doable.
I am pretty sure you can also pen its LFP, which will stop the Ho Ri completely and allow you to evade its gun arc thanks to the very limited horizontal traverse.
APCR absolutely does work against it because of all the flat armour. The round may be useless 95% of the time but this is the 5%. Just like the US 90mm would use APCR to deal with flat armour on JTs/Ferdis.
The spam is annoying but will die out soon.
As you can see from my stats I am a German main and while I think the production version is on the stronger side, I have played the prototype recently and didn’t find it to be outstanding at 6.7. Imho it could conceivably be 6.3 if it was in a major nation where worse players play it.
APCR barely ever changed and it won’t even be a solution either.
When angled you can tank quite a fair amount of hits tbh. The gun is one of the reason it’s at 6.0 since a high penning AP/APDS every 5.5 s is very very strong against the majority of tanks you’ll see. The image below speaks for itself (it was a 5.7-6.7 bracket).
No, you want already difficult-to-kill tanks to be invulnerable to 95% of the things they face and to only be countered with CAS. Like think for a second if those vehicles were actually at those BRs, is there even a reason to play other vehicles? You’ll just see a 12 Maus vs 12 IS-4Ms match instead.
I’m finding Soviets are the good ones to face in Proto, because your slow ass has time to get the right shot because of the 122mm reload, lol. It’s an enjoyable vehicle, honestly. Even with unreliable armour.
Though, I’d be singing a different tune if APHE wasn’t overperforming as much as it is right now.