Ho-Ri Production back to 7.0

Throughout the history, Ho-Ri Production stands as one of the most nerfed vehicles there.

  1. It had the fast transmission removed; that was very early in the day.
  2. It had 10 seconds constant reload speed removed
  3. It got bumped up to 7.3 BR

The vehicle itself isn’t that bad, but when a vehicle receives nerf, it should not be bumped up in BR that puts it in a unfair position; overnerfing is all too common in the game like the R2Y2 Kai.

  1. The Ho-Ri Productiion has bad layout, very easy to one shoot with HE given the artillery spam these days.
  2. The APHE lacks ballistic cap, very bouncy.
  3. Nonexistant LFP armor.
  4. Giant gun that will ensure it will get hit even the tank did not get penetrated.
  5. Its armor is relatively poor and does not resist higher end APHE like BR-412D and Pzgr 39 (of long 88). Most other TDs like Obj 268, JT, Elefant, AMX-50 Foch are very resistible to APHE.
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Ha.
I knew this was going to be you. :)

Either way it’s good at 7.3.
It was probably one of my nukes.
Easy carry TD, not OP I think, but definitely strong at 7.3.

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Alright, I’ve lost all hope in humanity

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i disagree !
this thing is night mare to kill !
7.3 is very good and balanced br for it !
it’s the diet maus for japan

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You literally can’t one shot it. Aim for the LFP and you hit the transmission, shoot the left or right side and you only kill the crew on that side. Unless you brought a full ammo load. Did you?

Skill issue.

No big ass muzzle brake or anything unlike, say, the IS-3, Tiger II, or US 90mm. It’s basically like every other tank in the game. Skill issue.

So do most tanks, plus you’ve got a massive transmission that basically blocks all the shots that do hit.

lmao

You literally have a 2.5 K/D (not including planes) with it in arcade, lmao. What are you complaining about?

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The Ho-Ri Prod. (I’ll say HR ) is actually balanced at this BR. I’ m a big JPN main and I complain VERY FAST about BR. Other than the boats I have every non-premium vehicle in the Japan tehctree. And in all those, the HR Prod is for me the funniest and one of the better.
It has a more than descent mobility with all those hp, the barrel can pen loads of things (I just have difficulties on Is-3/4) and the survivability is one of the greatest if not the best at this BR.

With the start of decompression what could be like 1-2 years ago, the first decompression was 8.0-9.7. Now, it is very rare to be killed by APFSDS; but there was a time… MWA301 where nightmares.

With experience on the bullet drop and a good knowledge on weakspots, it is awar machine. I think a good 1/4rd of my nukes where with this thing.

And we need to say that in downtier against Tiger 2’s, they can’t pen you well, and I don’t metion T-44 with 167mm of pen. The hull of the HR Prod can tank 3BM5.

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it should be stated its survivability is purely related to its speed, the second you become mobility crippled youre going to die for the most part, unless the enemy is stupid and just drive infront of you and dont know the upper super structure can be penned by long 88s and t29s can just lol pen you.

but if you keep that speed, it can bounce so god damn much its insane.

The Ho-Ri Production is like the Ferdinand, but on racecar crack along with a bigger and scarier gun.

If it actually got a more realistic (what if completed) Ho-Ri II construction remodel with a modified Chi-Ri hull instead of the wooden mockup sloped hull version:

(from Sirchby)

I could maybe see a BR reduction for it with reduced armour effectiveness, but with more secondary armament, including a twin 20mm roof mount.

Right now, it’s literally fine where it is at 7.3.

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Totaly fine in 7.3 with Type 99, I just need my Kikka to be very effective.

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The hell are you on about, this thing is the most broken vehicle in the Japanese tech tree, grinded through the tank not too long ago and it was a straight up power trip.

Not even thanks to the speed, if you look X-ray :

  • Ammo in the very bottom
  • 6 crew members
  • 2 separated from the 4 other by the engine and 2 metal sheets around it
  • not a lot of modules inside making it harder to disable

It makes it literally impossible to one shot, unless the shell has enough HE to splash all the way to your muntions (152 APHE from USA [the T-30 or idk] , Maus, Jagtiger, Tiger 2 105mm).

And the reload is not so bad

Edit : You can almost not get killed by HE, unless they hit the very bottom of your breech, or with a pixel-perfect bug that hasn’ t been fixed yet with HEAT-FS on the top of the hull on the edge of the 4 metal things (I think they support the pilot and copilots hatches). I died by this bug for the first time in sim by an Ikv-103 shell 2 years ago, and last time it was 3 weeks ago by the very same tank.

the hull is the main point in the armor… It would be way less funny if they make it more realistic.
I hate world of tank, but this un-realistic tank is for me way funnier and balanced than the more realistic one.

besides the fact ive been killed by t29s multiple times with a single shot while using the solid shot ammo, same with other vehicles like the tiger 2, m103, a tort once, i feel ashamed for that death, amx 50, ect. its just that guns that are sub 100mm just dont produce enough spalling to reach the ammo stored on the floor solely because of how tall the thing is.

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thats mostly because the japanese tree is bad until 6.7, which has some good vehicles but nothing extremely strong/broken, until the ho-ri,

then japan falls off the horse again because its nothing but power creped vehicles again. i mean the 8.3 type 74s would be better if you had literally anything else but them and the 87 spaa