HMS Renown battlecruiser

Everything that was not laid down, or at least made in any way, will not be added to the game, this has already been said many times by the company

There is no proof in there(or anywhere else) that there were plans for the already laid down hulls “H” and “J” to be upgraded into any other designs.

“H-40” wasn’t even part of the H class design lineage. There were only 2 informal design studies that were called “Scheme A” and “Scheme B”.

H-41 was the next formal design after H-39, and the last German battleship design that was officially considered for actual construction. But even this was to be built as completely new hulls, not an upgrade for the already laid down hulls.

H-42~44 were also informal design studies that were never really intended to be actually built.

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LMFAO Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck were actually laid down ships. For someone that seems quite interested in German warships, your knowledge seems quite shallow.

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Well, firstly, the H-39 and H-40 were officially laid down and considered in the flesh until the year 45. Secondly, the H-40A variant was made only because they wanted to make it quickly, along with the H-39. Option “H-40B” was the original option that was considered for construction, option “A” was canceled at this time.

All the rest were only on paper, or as calculations

Above is an extract from the book, you can read

Classic Germany main attitude. There are few playing those “minor” nations because there aren’t a lot of good ships(even though there are many possible good ships). More people would play them if better ships were added.

20~26s reload on eight 38cm guns and even thicker turtleback armor than Scharn. If you need more explanation, you haven’t seen what Scharn is currently capable of. Go see that for your self.

What is not a problem?

No I can’t believe you.

Proof please? I don’t see it in the book you quoted.

Classic minority player

The same will happen to competitors, don’t you think?

Probably adding technology to the above named countries?

Your right, I don’t care for the most part

I don’t think you’ve read the passages if you’re writing this. Prove what you read in this case)

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So please explain how Germany is suffering and needs better ships more than France or Italy right now.

Oh how ignorant you are. Go read up on the charateristics of Colorado, North Carolina, South Dakota, Iowa, Nelson, G3, King George V, Lion, Vanguard, Kaga, Kii, Francesco Caracciolo, Littorio, and Richelieu classes. Within the WT naval environment, they’ll all be at least slightly worse than Tirpitz in either firepower or survivability, or even in both factors.

The only ships that could be better than or equal to Bismarck/Tirpitz would be the 1920 South Dakota, modernized Nagato, Yamato, H-39, and Sovetsky Soyuz classes. Montana as well if she ever gets added.

Still don’t get what you’re trying to say with that.

I’ve read all the passages. All it says is that “H” and “J” were the only hulls that were laid down. There’s actually nothing in there about what designs they actually were. Since they were laid down in 1939, they were surely H-39 designs. And there’s nothing that says any of the laid down hulls were to be upgraded into other designs, or that any other ships of newer designs were actually laid down.

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Are you sure you are competent enough to say this? Because right now there isnt anything to match a Bismarck class and you arent even familiar with battleship meta yet

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So many people recently that blabber on about things they have no idea about, then proceed to get mad and insult other people when they correct them…

Also he is going completely off topic here as well…

As kkang said both Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck were laid down and they are way more real then the H-40B.

The H-40B as mentioned in the source you provided is nothing more then design study which was disregarded in 1941. So your source directly states they weren´t laid down.

Scharnhorst already dominates NF like no other ship (even Kronshtadt is easier to deal with), it has absolutely OP armor layot, very good AA armament, good speed and while the guns aren´t biggest they have very fast reload.

Germany absolutely doesn´t need even better ship, only argument that could be made that it desn´t have as much non top tier BBs as US/USSR/JPN (but same applies to UK1!) hence the Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck.

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Because this is one of the main countries that brings a lot of profit, unlike France and Italy

And a bunch of other battleships, right? For example, Iowa, New Jersey, Wisconsin and, of course, Montana-class ships

Your problems, I already answered this question for you

“H” is H-39 and “J” is H-40B, so it will be clearer?

And what? I play against them and probably understand what and how? Or are you a statistics buff?

With what? Eugen is just 5.7 so how exactly are you facing against Scharnhorst and other 7.0 ships?

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LOL are you a Gaijin employee or something?

You clearly didn’t read what I said. I already mentioned all those ships up there…

Proof? There’s nothing in the passage you quoted that indicates so.

Just stop if you don’t know what you’re talking about…

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And really, stop

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So? I’ve played way more naval than you, and that’s what matters here. None of yours or my aviation or tank experience matters here.

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And do you have ships of the highest level for 4000 thousand battles? I’d like to take a look, if you don’t mind

You didn’t know Mackenzen and Ersatz Yorck were laid down, so you know less about naval history than me.

You’ve played far less WT naval than me, so you know less about WT naval’s meta than me.

Everything is against you here.

War thunder players trying not to spiral into insanity after being faced with facts challange

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Oh how. Do you think I’m afraid because there are more of you? And you have a different opinion than mine? It’s pretty funny

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