Historical matchmaker for everyone

Or, y’know, the other game

Which has M-41D upgrade from 1990s and AMX-13-105 from 80s fighting against Maus and E-100 from the 1940s

7th of August 2024 at 2pm

The one which is as laughable as this one for the same reason.
Only stupid if it’s WoT not WT right?

It’s not stupid for either. Both are games, neither are full sim. You want an unbalanced, “historical” mess? Play another game.

I mean war thunder is a game. If you wat to do something historical find friends which want to do that with you (or make it by your own) But this in a game no. That will ruin war thunder because ppl going to play only one vehicel and will never get into a match.

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You seem to be an advocate for bad elements in popular games.Are you going to lecture me about how Fallout 4 crashing all the time is a good thing as well ?

Have you never played a good balanced historical game? What are you a child ? What low vantage point do you try to attack me from here?

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It is a game that could be better.One of the ways it could be better would be to have historical match making instead of pure fantasy.War Thunder just chooses to group it’s vehicles another way.It chose not to do historical matchmaking which is a shame.Should have, could have maybe but didn’t ,now it is too late.

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“Balanced” is a heavy word, because most “balanced” historical games flub vehicle statistics and behavior hard.
Complaining about the way the game’s been since release in that respect will get you absolutely nowhere, and it’s tiring to see constantly.

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Because it will be more like M4A (76) vs Pz IVH/J/Stug IIIG, P-51D vs Bf 109G-10/K-4/Fw 190D-9 with only a sprinkling of Tiger I & Me 262

Great. Now you have to wait 5 hours to queue. How do you actually think this is gonna be balanced at all?

No.
Would be a huge step backward into an unfun unbalanced trash heap.

I quit milsimmers cause they just wanted to LARP as existing groups instead of having imagination.

We already have realism.
Year is arbitrary and nothing to do with realism.

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War Thunder does technical realism, not doctrine/usage/historical realism. This is the ideal, as the latter is inherently unbalanced, usually wildly so.

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There’s no such thing as doctrine nor historical realism.
History has a word: Authentic.
And doctrine is no different than fiction, it’s invented things.

And the great thing about focusing on realism is people will discover what works best for them.
And if people really want to reenact history, that’s what custom battles are easily used for.

OP could tell you how to shot down a F-22A with J-8B? It’s 100% historicial matchmaking ;)

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*There are threads for this specific thing that already exists, why do you people keep insisting that this should be “added”? Knowing it never will.
I rather not have my Ha-Go fight an IS-2.
I also would rather not have any Japanese aircraft fighting an F-86. Their service remained used till early 1949 however knowing history that isn’t always documented it was still being used till the '50s

Imho you just ask for a BR adjustment based on production years / service years in order to provide a certain portion of realism.

A real historical MM would need to consider numerical and logistical advantages (=potential asymmetric warfare) besides the necessity to create certain “friend or foe” brackets like Nato vs WP.

A semi-historical MM would create these “friend or foe” brackets for certain eras like WW 2 / Cold War I / Cold War II but would keep the setup of equally sized teams.

A few examples based on WW 2:

Historical MM: 16 P-51 D-5/10/20 (BR 4.0 & 4.3) vs 2 Me 262s (BR 7.0).
Semi-historical MM: 16 F6F-3s (BR 3.3) vs 16 A6M5s (BR 5.0).

I would be great if you would be more precise what you actually want…

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Just additiomal aspect of realism.

No it isn’t.
Year is not realism. This fact does not change no matter how many times people lie.

You seem to be a bit of a simpleton.The OP is asking for the kind of realism one would expect from War Thunder in terms of what plane would face what. I agree with him as I had the same expectation when I joined.Many of us did.
As I answered very early on ,that sadly is not the case in this game you do not have that realism.The Air game is a silly mess of any old plane vs any other plane in a scenario a million miles away from anything realistic or immersive.

You jump into your pixel collection and fire at another pixel collection,battling over a white disc shaped thing or even worse controlling of an airfield by landing on it.

Pathetic really but that is the air game.Then you come along and defend this mess for the sake of an argument.

So the question is ,can war thunder do realistic air battles? and the answer is no

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No. Because it’s not so easy as you think. My favorite example against a historical matchmaker is that Lightning F.6 fought against F-15s in Nato exercises

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Yes, and that’s a good thing.

This has been explained to you many times in many threads, and has already been said in this thread as well: War Thunder is about technical realism only. It’s a big sandbox of vehicles with realistic models and performance to play around with as we see fit. That’s all it’s supposed to be, and that’s good.

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