Hispanic Ground Forces Tech Tree

[AlvisWisla]

I think I prefer the Latin America tech tree suggestion over this.
Partly because that suggestion can include at least some of these nations as well.

[el_Argentino]

@AlvisWisla

Partly because that suggestion can include these nations as well

So, you’re saying that Spain should be added to the Latin American tree suggestion?
Would that mean adding Portugal as well?

I’m not saying I disagree; I myself have dual nationality (Argentine and Spanish). It’s just that I don’t think gaijin has plans for a multinational big space. Idk…

[el_Argentino]

On the other hand, this suggestion (Spain, Argentina, Chile and Peru) makes much more sense when we look at the Scandinavian tree or the British Commonwealth tree.

[Fireraid233]

I mean there is no official rule against it. Even if it is a lot of nations they are smaller some having more and some have less but they can pick multiple more then just the three listed here and make a solid TT with spain as it center or a contributing nation in my opinion

[Chilean_Thunder]

@AlvisWisla

I think I prefer the Latin America tech tree suggestion over this.
Partly because that suggestion can include these nations as well.

@Fireraid233

I mean there is no official rule against it. Even if it is a lot of nations they are smaller some having more and some have less but they can pick multiple more then just the three listed here and make a solid TT with spain as it center or a contributing nation in my opinion

Please read the previous answers before commenting; it’s tiring to repeat the same thing over and over.

@Chilean_Thunder

I already answered this question for someone else earlier, but the point is that I did it this way due to game restrictions. Currently, there’s the main nation, which in this case would be Spain, and it can be accompanied by up to three sub-nations. An example in the game would be Sweden accompanied by Finland, Norway, and Denmark, or Japan with Thailand, Malaysia, and Indonesia. In this case, Chile and Argentina were chosen for the reasons I explained at the beginning of the suggestion: they have more vehicles, more unique ones, and they have enough to fill top tier, something other Hispanic nations lack. After there are a maximum of three sub-nations, a few more are usually added to fill very specific gaps or they are added as premium/event content, like Mexico in this case or even Argentina itself in Germany, which is not considered a subtree in the German tree, unlike Switzerland, which is. The Latin American tree, for example, while we all like it, has many nations, but the maximum of three subnations per tree is exceeded. Therefore, even if implemented, it wouldn’t have half the vehicles suggested. Another issue is that each rank only allows up to three vehicles, which is why some of the vehicles are in folders. I understand what you’re saying, but you need to be aware of the game’s limitations to make a suggestion like this. What I will do is add interesting vehicles from other Latin American nations, but as premium/event vehicles.

In the air force tree, the third nation in the Hispanic tree is Peru because it has many good things at high ranks that help fill gaps. They also recently acquired the F-16V Block 70, making them the best candidate since they contribute top-tier vehicles, which is one of Gaijin’s requirements for being added to the game. If you don’t have top-tier vehicles, Gaijin will completely disqualify you from being a technology sub-tree.

[AlvisWisla]

Mayhaps.
There’s a reason I’m supporting these nations regardless.

Brazil-Portugal.
Spain has options regardless.

@Chilean_Thunder
There’s no reason to take offense, friend.
I’m showing support for the nations.

There is no maximum amount of nations for a tech tree stated anywhere I’m aware of.

[Fireraid233]

Where has it been said there is a maximum of 3 sub nations ?

Besides even if there is a rule which i have yet to find, the nations in the Latin America TT are not sub trees or sub nations, they are the TT. With different vehicles from different nations could be one from Mexico or 3 from Argentina regardless it’s THE base TT.

A sub tree would be if there is a fresh line in the TT and they add a Portugal line. That to me would count as one sub tree/nation if we are talking about a united latin America TT.

[Chilean_Thunder]

@AlvisWisla

There is no maximum amount of nations for a tech tree stated anywhere I’m aware of.

@Fireraid233

Where has it been said there is a maximum of 3 sub nations ?

Are there any nations in the game with more than 3 sub-trees?

[Fireraid233]

That doesnt mean its the cap gaijin can add more if they wish untill an official statement says otherwise there is no current cap as i see it

[Chilean_Thunder]

When there are more than 3 per nation, let me know; I’ll do things as they are now.

[Fireraid233]

In my opinion it should be Latin America plus spain and Portugal as full sub trees that way everyone is represented and it covers the top tier issue.

[THEPolishThunder]

no

Sub-tree discussion thread

Sub-tree discussion thread [image] Update Ixwa Strike where South Africa became the first sub-nation in-game This thread is dedicated to discussing in-game sub tree’s and fixed home nations (nations that aren’t a sub-tree but are allocated to be housed in a specific nation). Current nations and their sub tree’s USA [image]

Sub-Nations

The USA doesn’t currently have any sub tree’s

Germany [image]

Sub-Nations

Switzerland [image] The Swiss sub-tree currently only has an air branch…

[Chilean_Thunder]

Exactly, that’s what I mean. Gaijin doesn’t need to speak up for something that’s already implicit. The maximum for now (and I think forever) is 3 per tech tree, basically because there’s no more space or because the main nation doesn’t need a subtree. I understand that some want to see Latin America or Spain and Portugal all mixed together, but it doesn’t work that way; they have to use logic. That’s why I made this suggestion because it’s the most organized and logical option to implement.

This suggestion I made is practically the same as the Commonwealth of the United Kingdom, which has India, Australia, and South Africa as sub-trees because they were part of the British Empire. This tree encompasses the nations that were part of the Spanish Empire, with Chile, Argentina, and Peru as sub-trees. Is that very difficult to understand?

[AlvisWisla]

Sub-trees? Maybe not.
Nations in general? At least 2.
There are 3 sub-trees for Japan, and none? are full lines.
Then there’s Australia as a non-sub tree yet has more vehicles in Britain than India which is an official sub-tree.

I don’t know if this as a tech tree is needed, which is why I’m not voting on this.
I do not oppose this suggestion in the slightest.
I don’t overtly support it either, but I do support the nations it’s suggesting.

I overall support this idea, just not enough for me to make a vote.

I hope my explanation is received well, cause I do not want to make you feel like I’m opposing it when I’m not.

I do want to see all of the cool vehicles in the game at the end of the day.

[Chilean_Thunder]

@AlvisWisla

There are 3 sub-trees for Japan, and none? are full lines.

Because they gradually add vehicles and fill in spaces, but there are 3 official sub-trees. Here @THEPolishThunder left a very good thread with proof of which are sub-trees and which are not.

@AlvisWisla

Then there’s Australia as a non-sub tree yet has more vehicles in Britain than India which is an official sub-tree.

Australia is an official subtree

@AlvisWisla

I don’t overtly support it either, but I do support the nations it’s suggesting.

I overall support this idea, just not enough for me to make a vote.

I hope my explanation is received well, cause I do not want to make you feel like I’m opposing it when I’m not.

I do want to see all of the cool vehicles in the game at the end of the day.

I don’t know, you like the nations I present and the vehicles (I suppose) but at the same time you don’t want to vote because you don’t like them enough, anyway

I mean, you have the right to like something or not, but it’s confusing. Ultimately, all I want is for Hispanic countries to be included somehow, since we’re literally the most forgotten. All the other subcontinents have more vehicles than we do.

[THEPolishThunder]

@Chilean_Thunder

That’s why I made this suggestion because it’s the most organized and logical option to implement.

Tbh I do enjoy the way you made this tree, and it is a good idea to apply Gaijin max 3 sub-tree logic for now

[THEPolishThunder]

the other thing you could possibly do is add a “fixed home nation” so not a sub-tree, but basically it is where a countries vehicles get scattered mostly in one nation, but they aren’t a sub-tree

[AlvisWisla]

@Chilean_Thunder

Ultimately, all I want is for Hispanic countries to be included somehow, since we’re literally the most forgotten.

I’m in agreement, which I hope my previous posts explained that well enough.

I’m not good at explaining things that I love & want, but am still thinking on implementation for.
I’m bad at explaining my ideas in general, & that’s after years of practice on getting better.
So I do apologize for my part of any misunderstanding between us.

[Fireraid233]

@Chilean_Thunder

Ultimately, all I want is for Hispanic countries to be included somehow, since we’re literally the most forgotten. All the other subcontinents have more vehicles than we do

Well i do still fully support this suggestion its better then nothing just i have a different opinion in how it should be added but regardless i want to see something soon

[Chilean_Thunder]

I mean, I’ve always said that Spain is the main nation of the tree and the others are the sub-trees. Perhaps I should use the flag of the Spanish Empire as the cover image to make it clearer, because I see that many people confuse this proposal with the Latin American one when the idea is different. But I thought it would be somewhat controversial to use that flag, so that’s why I opted for the current Spanish flag.