Here is why map sizes are shrinking and will continue to shrink

[T_reaper_01]

Do you even read?

I never said these numbers were clear proof. I also said most players never even come to the forums. Maybe read better and you’d have a better context or just go argue with a brick wall.

[ZE4L0T]

I wasn’t responding to any point that you’ve made in this thread. I was replying to OP’s original post…

[T_reaper_01]

Oh my apologies, was replying to multiple people.

[SovietBear4]

I want Gaijin to add their version of Shipment from CoD

[Zyranovos]

I hope that significant 1.000 people are happy!
(This is a way for gaijin devs to seem not selfish about not wanting to work on big maps cuz being big lazy)

[CmdrVince]

Sorry. A lot of people who I communicate with on the regular, as well as quite a few people I have seen in game or on the forums, do not like Red Desert.

[T_reaper_01]

Oh ok gotcha

[AllNationEnjoyer]

I don’t think so, I constantly get disliked maps and they said as such that it doesn’t affect rotation in the original blog when they released this feature

[Nike_Ajax]

@T_reaper_01

Yeah you just told me everything. Simple minded and lazy or just scared to have any difficulty. See ya

I said an opinion opposite of yours to see how you react and you reacted with insults about me as a person which is against forum rules. You were complaining about the behavior of others yet you’re part of the problem.

[T_reaper_01]

I would never insult you as a person. You’re one of my fellow WT gamers. I only try to interpret what you’re saying.

P.s. I see what you’re trying to do

[TheArcticFoxxo]

Sure, let’s say I don’t. Why don’t we just go with that, yknow? Pretty simple.

“Gaijin biased”? The hell does that mean?

Ah, yes, presuming I’m Russian. I’ll assume you’re from Nepal, given their abnormally low average IQ.

@T_reaper_01

FYI moderators, anywhere, for any situation, are supposed to be completely neutral and quiet, zero opinions and zero comments. Only to moderate. Not have “power” and also push their own ideas and preferences.

According to…? Is this just opinion based, or do you have a legitimate reason behind this?
They don’t have “power” and use it to push ideas and preferences… They speak their mind and are seen as somebody speaking their mind.
Do you see TrickZZter sitting here having common discourse? Do you see any legitimate titled employee in the forums?

@T_reaper_01

When a moderator is hosting a presidential forum, do they give the presidential candidates their own personal views and tell them how it should be, or do they just ask the questions and let the citizens hear the views of the intended parties? Ideally with people with integrity and who follow the rules of society, they don’t push their views, they only moderate. Because they’re in a position with more “power” than the average person. The exact same applies here and on any forum. We should never know or want to know the views or preferences of the moderators. Because even the appearance of favoritism or bias ruins the whole thing and people don’t forget, that memory is always there and it does create animosity and division. And this place is full of it.

What in the hell is a “presidential forum”? What relation does this have to the forum?

And again, what do “people with integrity and who follow the rules of society” have anything to do with the forums? What arbitrary trash are you trying to spew with this?

I’m not seeing anything of substance in this mass of text.

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[AurenKarach]

@BleedingUranium

Excellent post. This aspect is especially important, as Ground RB is basically the perfect combination of mechanics to be “Steamroll: The Mode”.

Ground RB maximizes easiness of enemy detection (third-person) and simplified aiming systems (optics inside gun barrels, generic simple reticle for all tanks), combined with ease of keeping yourself hidden at the same time (third-person over cover so you literally can’t be seen, almost no real time team communication of positions due to lack of markers, no barrel collision so you can hug that cover you’re peeking over). Combined with relatively low mobility (especially relative to a normal FPS), rather open maps, few capture points (must travel predictable and easily watched paths), respawns only at home base (travel time, and passing through the same killing zones again), and especially bad, a respawn point system (giving players who do well even more ability to do well, the definition of snowballing).

And that’s just a quick list.

Couldn’t agree more, this comment is 100% on point.

That’s not something you can alter with map design, simple as. The one suggestion I’ve seen that might have a noticeable ripple effect, is replacing spawn points with a spawn zone that encompasses the entire side of the map that your spawns used to be on: you pick a grid square in column 1, or column 8, and spawn there.

That sounds like a good idea in principle because no team could possibly control all of that even in the most steamrolly of situations, but you would have to change all the maps to make it balanced, so I’m not holding my breath in that regard.

Other than that, really this isn’t a map issue, it’s a game mode and mission type issue. And because WT is such a success, one can hardly blame Gaijin for not wanting to take too many liberties when it comes to tinkering with their winning formula. And it’s not all that clear that a solid majority of players would be onboard with a massive change to this mode.

So at the end of the day for me the best solution is to show initiative ourselves. If someone has a good idea to test and they think it can work, set up the mission through the CDK and gather players around you to playtest it. Upload the results on YouTube. Build interest.

If players respond positively, eventually Gaijin will follow.

[StiXWasHere]

I recently made a post about this actually. What I believe is that players should be allowed to select which maps they want to queue for.

[Renegade_Actual]

This would be great too because Gaijin would get more accurate passive feedback about what maps the community doesn’t like.

[jd_hog77]

Yeah, I can tell you that rule would only apply to CM’s. As they are actually Gaijin employees. While mods are volunteers and don’t work for Gaijin.

[jd_hog77]

I thought that to, but we updated information from Stona that it does affect map selection.

[LiteralStone]

Interesting that of the map “choices”, we currently have, like, dislike and ban, we don’t have the option to select either large maps, small maps or both. We even have the option to play or not play night battles so why not allow us to choose map size?

I’d think that is having this option would allow Gaijin to gather more accurate data about map preferences in addition to giving us the ability to play on the type of maps we want to play.

I’m not a fan of small maps as I prefer the larger maps more suited to tank combat with a more diverse play style than that is available on small maps.

[Coffeemoo]

“rich in detail” is an interesting way of saying the maps are utter horseshit.

[Duke012Cav]

If they continue to downsize the maps, they are going to lose a lot of players because it’s not right to have a head-to-head battle with no room to maneuver after the last 11 years I spent thousands of dollars on this game and I will not spend a penny more if the maps are downsized anymore end of the story and taking out all the sniping hillsides or mountain tops away from us players is bad, to begin with, oh they’re killing us too badly oh well they’re sniping us Boo Hoo Hoo cry me a river but that how Tanks do their thing in tank battles is by taking the high ground and set up crossfires to

[Duke012Cav]

Look at what BioWare E/A games have done with Mass Effect Andromeda the graphics are outstanding and the maps are huge of course they do things right and not half Ass! Like trees disappearing into the ground after you run them over and radar being able to scan through trees and buildings