They should get rid of the Yak-9K’s paper APHE while they’re at it
Neither did the flares on the F-5C
Or missile HMD on the A-10C and F-15E (year model depicted ingame)
Or the IRST of the Yak-141
Or the entiretey of the F-16AJ that is depicted ingame.
Or R-27; Sedjil on the F-14A.
And many more examples.
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I said it last time and I repeat, there was a huge topic about this same subject that was closed by the moderators, which was correct, of the many people there, few were actually debating the existence of this missile, creating more topics about the same subject is not cool and I hope that some moderator closes it soon so as not to cause more discord since instead of a debate about the existence of the missile, people were just talking about things that were off topic.
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Make a thread about it. I’m talking specifically about this one missile.
Agreed. It’s hard for people to keep things relevant since everyone has a laundry list of misgivings towards the game. Seems 99% of the threads are like this. “This (subject) is a problem.” “This is also a problem, and so is this this and that” /thread gets closed for relevance
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And aslo i think not adding photos of the missile from Zhuhai airshow looks quite manipulative
I’m not aware of that, can you share photos?
Spoiler
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While I appreciate the photos, the clarity is not enough to see the markings on the side, that could be a number of different variants or even dummy/inert missiles.
Plus note, there’s zero chance they would advertise a live missile at an airshow anyway
Well the missile definitely exists, now I can’t say about its IR version, and it seems that it was used for the first time (I won’t mention the conflict due to forum rules)
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I believe the IR seeker is the issue, the missile itself is very real and has been used in combat in Syria as we as current conflicts in it’s SAL configuration. My best guess is that the KH-38 follows Russia’s usual doctrine of producing a modular missile and that while the IR seekers are available, nobody has thought that the advantages out way the extra costs.
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I have no doubt the KH38 platform exists I just don’t believe the MT version does at least for now. I hope said conflict ends sooner than later :(
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Yes, it exists and has been used a few times. There may even be an IR version that may or may not be used due to costs, etc., like the R27EA, which exists but there are few photos and will not be used. Most likely, the most widely used versions will be the GLONASS-guided versions for strategic targets or laser-guided versions to destroy armored vehicles or ships, as used by the KA52 and the Su34. Regarding the conflict, I prefer to refrain from giving my opinion and not expressing my geopolitical side here on the forum.
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The MT - IR version is what we are skeptical exists. I do not want the KH38 platform removed but just that one variant
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I don’t want it to be removed either, I wouldn’t mind the IR version being removed, I really like the ML version, it’s great for urban maps
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Well then how are they KH-38s reaching targets if no IR is integrated into the seeker head? The footage of them being used is quite popular, the characteristics of this missile is not, plus abbreviations such as MT-ML are just that abbreviations and designations. However, I do agree that gajiin does rush a lot of tech way ahead of its time, take it easy and improve upon maps.
ML is the laser guided version like many other missiles, brimstones, hellfires, and others.
ML is manually guided to target
MT is lock, fire and forget
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There are two sides to this missile, its existence in the game has opened up space for more western missiles that are comparable and new AAA
The new AAA is not perfect unfortunately. I played in the dev server and was able to defeat new AAA with slow AGM-65D. I believe Pantsir is still better than new AAA
Well that is what we are trying to find out are they fire and forget or not, the missiles in the footage, but we will never know until info is available. However as I said rushing a lot of tech into our game is not always optimal.
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True it has done that and we will definitely get more western missiles in, sometimes I wonder adding this many this fast is what might be causing the issue.
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