The “missile” from the trade show is a model, not a real missile. Almost everyone believed that missile exists from that one photo from the trade show which is now debunked as a model. Clearly there’s no way Russia, USA, or any nation would use a live or even inert (can still be fired) missile for a show. If there was a clear photo of one sitting on an SU, that’d be a different story but it’s a paper missile unless other proof comes out meaning it should be removed.
I made these points and shortly after the main KH38 thread was closed. Not a discussion. If you have proof it exists then post it.
Its a quantum leap over the competition. Its faster, has better range, has better guidance and has a huge warhead compared to pretty much every single other AGM on offer. A few might match on one or two points, but none can match on them all.
Then combine with the fact the only reasonable counter at the moment is the Pantsir. An SPAA the KH-38MT slingers will never face… It just makes the everything even worse
Weird, I was attacked for saying these things in other topics.
Glad you accepted the evidence though.
Even if the evidence is not really enough one way or the other objectively speaking.
As I said a number of times, I personally don’t care if the missiles go away.
And I see @_Ladies_Man_217 is telling people to ignore everyone providing evidence.
I don’t think the developers have any information about Russian missiles other than what was written in the brochure. But from the rocket added. Then why not just add such an option for Britain Germany and Italy ?
The issue is MMW is not equal to IR AGMs, period.
Not only that but Kh-38MT with “correct” seeker is inferior to AGM-65D/G due to seeker limitations.
Right now even IF Kh-38MT was real, its seeker is overperforming due to being AGM-65D seeker copy-paste. According to limited documentation on the seeker, it should be a 1.5km lock distance, and against pre-programmed targets. Likely static only as well.
MMW is more teamkill prone as well as far more dangerous due to potentially longer tracking ranges using radar instead of IR.
While I do support MMW for 1.3 BR higher than top BR tanks are currently, I understand their threat in the teamkilling part for now.
Still does not explain why we do not have SAL-Brimstone 2s or GPS+SAL Spear-3s
This is an extreme overegeration that would likely not be hte case with Brismtone IRL because the Missiles can ID the target. Which could easily be translated into IFF or a placeholder FnF Seeker that would work much like IIR
@PyroAddict I said the program* existed, not functional missiles.
Please do not lie about others.
I will reiterate my statement that I’ve been making since April: There are no functional Kh-38MTs shown in photographic or video evidence.
This statement of mine has not ever changed.
The actual quote by the way:
Notice how I say any images of Kh-38MTs on aircraft are suspected mockups.
I also corrected my wording as I wasn’t aware that I didn’t use “involved with” initially.
It’s interesting, but with these missiles, the developer has shot themselves in the foot. Now they’re hostages to the situation they created themselves. If they remove these missiles, it will cause a lot of outrage among the Russians. If they do nothing about them, it really angers NATO. They can’t add Brimstone missiles in their full form to the Eurofighter because of their high-tech nature. It’s even intriguing to see how this will end)))
You know what, don’t worry. I started grinding the USSR. Usually, when I decide to grind a nation, by some cruel twist of fate, it gets nerfed :)
Why would they need to? “Man in the Loop” guidance has been replaced wholesale with bog standard Electro-Optical Correlation seeking, as have “Contrast” Seekers, as a gaming convention.
Brimestones along side the AGM-114L could absolutely be implemented tomorrow with performance copied directly from Contemporary missiles with no issue.
