Here is proof KH38MTs are non-existent other than on paper

Yeah… But they wont.

For example. For Britain, italy and Germany. That would be the Brimstone 2 or 3 with MMW Guidance…

We dont even getting MMW guidance on the Brimstone 1 or SAL only Brimstone 2/3

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I don’t think the developers have any information about Russian missiles other than what was written in the brochure. But from the rocket added. Then why not just add such an option for Britain Germany and Italy ?

The issue is MMW is not equal to IR AGMs, period.
Not only that but Kh-38MT with “correct” seeker is inferior to AGM-65D/G due to seeker limitations.
Right now even IF Kh-38MT was real, its seeker is overperforming due to being AGM-65D seeker copy-paste. According to limited documentation on the seeker, it should be a 1.5km lock distance, and against pre-programmed targets. Likely static only as well.

MMW is more teamkill prone as well as far more dangerous due to potentially longer tracking ranges using radar instead of IR.

While I do support MMW for 1.3 BR higher than top BR tanks are currently, I understand their threat in the teamkilling part for now.


You literally said the missile existed, but they never placed it on a plane.

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Still does not explain why we do not have SAL-Brimstone 2s or GPS+SAL Spear-3s

This is an extreme overegeration that would likely not be hte case with Brismtone IRL because the Missiles can ID the target. Which could easily be translated into IFF or a placeholder FnF Seeker that would work much like IIR

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@PyroAddict I said the program* existed, not functional missiles.
Please do not lie about others.

I will reiterate my statement that I’ve been making since April:
There are no functional Kh-38MTs shown in photographic or video evidence.

This statement of mine has not ever changed.

The actual quote by the way:

Notice how I say any images of Kh-38MTs on aircraft are suspected mockups.
I also corrected my wording as I wasn’t aware that I didn’t use “involved with” initially.

Apart from the proper euphemism, explain to us how that makes any difference on proving Gaijin that it does not exist.

If the E-100 program existed, then it should’ve been added with its original turret. Or at least, that’s what your logic leads to.

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It’s interesting, but with these missiles, the developer has shot themselves in the foot. Now they’re hostages to the situation they created themselves. If they remove these missiles, it will cause a lot of outrage among the Russians. If they do nothing about them, it really angers NATO. They can’t add Brimstone missiles in their full form to the Eurofighter because of their high-tech nature. It’s even intriguing to see how this will end)))
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You know what, don’t worry. I started grinding the USSR. Usually, when I decide to grind a nation, by some cruel twist of fate, it gets nerfed :)

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i mean the thread probably gonna get locked again anyways
and gaijin would still ignore it

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well someone died to a Kh-38MT and oppened a thread as their natural reaction, nothing new
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Why would they need to? “Man in the Loop” guidance has been replaced wholesale with bog standard Electro-Optical Correlation seeking, as have “Contrast” Seekers, as a gaming convention.

Brimestones along side the AGM-114L could absolutely be implemented tomorrow with performance copied directly from Contemporary missiles with no issue.

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I know this. But I think they’re avoiding discord even more than with Russian missiles. Let me repeat, the developer doesn’t actually know how Russian missiles work. That’s why they’re in the game in a simplified form. Brimstones could be implemented in the same simplified way. And instead of 12, give us just 6 per plane. That would significantly balance the game.

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So long as it didnt impact air modes (and thus the full 18x Brimstone could be taken in ARB and ASB) then no one would have issue with this

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before yall add anything please fix my ADATS first

Hahaha the meme disappeared

Wasn’t even notified which is amazing, it’s not against any rules from what I know and I see them all over the place.

Spoiler

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You understand that it won’t happen like that, right? I’m sure the developers won’t remove Russian missiles, and we have the option to push for an alternative in the form of tweaking Brimstones. If they give us 6, that would be great. Because in ARB, most targets are in the air. At least, that’s how it is for me.

kolibri pistol vs GAU-19

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Unless you play a ground attacker like the Tornado Gr4 in ASB… in which case. The Full 18x Brimstone loadout would be fun to deal with Convoys.

Besides I dont see them limiting GBU-39 carriers to only 8 (2 racks) because it would be too OP in air modes

I think we should first aim to get at least 6 missiles. If we push for more, as you suggest, the developers will say we’re asking for too much. I’m convinced that the developers are listening to players less and less and are tweaking things the way they see fit. So, I believe these discussions are just a place to vent emotions.

I am against the KH38 being in the game as much as the next guy but people misunderstand the minimum requirements for something to be added into the game. For Gaijin the existence of the booster, warhead and inertial/gps guidance systems that are used on the ML are enough reason for the MT version to be allowed in game, this is the same case for multiple vehicles, like the Ho-229, kikka, f-16aj, E100, Ho-Ri, Sidam Mistral, Heavt tank no.6 etc. I dont think Gaijin cares if the seeker was built or tested as much you guys think, they will never react to this drama because they dont think its an issue at all.

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