Yep and attackers are already not the funniest things to use in arb, helis would be even worse
fixed wing Cas around 9.3 is pretty pointless, even without guided missiles just radar guided cannon spaa can easily defeat or force you to stay away because all you have is usually dumb ordnance or at most MCLOS missiles .Wait until you get agms or laser guided weapons you can use outside 5km, and make sure to stay at that distance from the battlefield and no ty90 will reach you.
I have for example played a ton of both A-10s at 10.3 and 10.7 and have never even once had to deal with a Chinese helo or even a manpads spaa
fwiw the AH-1Fs in the SEAD event were the most proactive in doing the objective, I don’t see them working great in the current state of Air RB, they’d be more suited to the style of Objective based missions/Enduring Confrontation.
The biggest concern I would have is any Helo vs Helo interaction with top tiers, e.g. the Mi-28NM is almost untouchable to any IR AAM/ATGM, outranges everything with Air Proxy Vikhrs and will be even worse to face with other Helis when it has LMUR. Tiger UHT vs anything with LDIRCM is just funny to think about, it can only run or ram.
Better off remaking a PvP mode than putting them in with fixed wings, sure some could work but they’ll be sitting ducks against certain aircraft & good players, especially not helped when some don’t carry armament to defend themselves.
A reworked PvP mode could honestly work & it’s daft that the devs never really bother to do it outside the original version. It also didn’t help that the following PvPvE EC mode was a mess (ohh boy time to fly my huey an get nuked by a Ka-50 across the map).
An now that separate BR’s are finally a thing, I would’ve thought they’d have tried making a new mode with separated BR’s liike every standard mode yet here we unfortunately are.
Bring them to ARB.
Adapt this for heli’s
We just need a reworked PvE mode. Adding helis into air realistic battles would be a bad idea because players would immediately rush the other teams heli spawn for free kills after all the opposing fighters are gone. It’ll be like trying to play a strike aircraft in air RB but 10x worse. There should be a Helicopter realistic battles and helicopter arcade battles just like tanks, planes, and naval though. Maybe a PvE/PvP game mode with proper BR considerations instead of AH-1Gs fighting KA-52s. Also bunch of logistics or support objectives for utility helis so we don’t have the problem we have now with the lack of objectives in heli PvE.
Heli PvE needs improvements, Heli EC PvP could also be an option, but helis should not be added to ARB under any circumstance
funnily enough JAGM has an accepted report for a proxy fuse but hasnt been added for some reason
Lies lol
They are seem by as low as 9.3 line ups.
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because 9.3 covers the vast majority of vehicles that can face TY-90s? Not even gonna mention the A-10 Early and Su-25 being the most common planes this BR Spread?
No that would be inconvenient for your upvotes I guess, since you’re so desperate I’ll give you one and you can go away.
Oh no some vehicles are too vulnerable to be played by anyone so you aren’t even trying to care them. Not even gonna mention the flareless? the 60 flare shared with chaff? the fact that shutoff seekers being the best IR a2a seeker ingame, which aren’t there for planes till 11.7?
How balanced. Assume a most braindead lock and fire to request planes to do the best lmao
Oh ofc we don’t take chff in GRB cuz CAP is more dead already xDDD
yeah the biggest threat to 9.3 Jets in GRB isn’t the M247, Ozelot, Gepard and Shilka with MANPADS and Osa SAM systems it’s a 10.3 helicopter no one even plays
And Seeker Shut-off+FoV appears earlier than 10.3 on Helicopters but Reddit hasn’t fed you that information yet.
You know this topic was bringing helos on airgames.
But you refuse to understand, what I first stated. Imagine 4 chinese helos armed with ty90’s in airgame, and it would be literally broken as hell
and even the OP figured BRs can be reassigned like they already are for certain planes between Ground and Air Battles.
Still you pretend most planes have flares To spare. Especially on airgames
Are most planes the J-35XS or smthin?
This is pointless, every time this discussion happens it just starts and dies at “muh TY-90” like it’s the only thing that exists; complained about by a playerbase of pilots that managed to get the Roland uptiered above 10.0.
Well it is only proper aa missile on helos to be honest.
Wow, going from extreme To another.
Still most planes carry 60cm’s, quite many planes uses 2 cm’s on one press, so it cut that in half. And now, lets play in 11.7 and over, you really have to get chaffs, cutting that amount even more. Now you try to say about periodic cm using…
I’d point Gaijin towards the Strike (Delta, Soviet, and Nuclear) series of Heli games on PS1 for simple mission objectives. We can even introduce PvP that way with one team being TacStrike and the other OpFor.
Then we get PvP and PvE fixed for Helis
Didn’t we already have some helicopter PVP or PVE mode that was either unplayable or absurdly boring? I like helicopters, but their grind and implementation makes them a pain to even consider playing.