if you prefer that then play arcade instead of RB. Sim mode for who wants to get all the RL goodies. Play your tank shooter with RNG generator. people who prefer not to have the option in WT Sim mode. Point is get it more away from RB. Thats why we have sim sub form and sim enthusiast exchange ideas how to make sim mode better. You must have pressed the wrong controller button, nobody wants to take your air spam away in RB and arcade you can keep it.
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It is, a simulator doesn’t need to emulate everything, just enough so that you can learn from it basics to operate a real plane/tank. Why do people think simulations always need to be perfect?
The fact is tanks get a lot more handholding features, and the rules are different for tanks than planes.
Tanks get 3rd person view (yes commanders view is third person) the plaens do not. The tanks get the instructor and mouse aim, the planes do not. It’s not a.level.playing field and and Gaijin took a shortcut for tanks.
If you read the text you would understand that this isn’t the case. Sooo reading helps.
You’re trying to make an arcadey fast pace tank game into a simulator. Dude stop, just play a different game that is actually intended for that.
You desperately try to project your preferences and force on others. No sunshine. There are three modes in this game. For every one something. as said before stick to arcade or RB if its to much button pressing for you to play sim. Its all a matter of code and programing. Simply putting two // in front of a line of code that makes the difference in arcade and SIM. Nobody wants to take away your arcade mode, again. Nobody here wants to force sim rules on other game modes. You seem to have some kind of mental issues. I am done with you.
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Dude you’re trying to force the developers the DESIGNED THEIR GAME TO BE ARCADEY to force players to wait 5-10 minutes just to join a match for 0 reason other an because you’re too garbage to learn proper counterplay or play a game that is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for the simulator playstyle you want.
I like sim’s lack of nametags and forced gunner sight, as do many others. I do not like waiting for a recreational activity as does 99.99% of casual gamers. You want to force them to wait for 0 reason and I just want to play a game and have fun.
How is me being fine with the current system “projecting and forcing” my opinion on others, whilst you trying to change a game for the worst isn’t?
As in non-sim players.
aB/RB should be for casuals.
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lol you’re seriously trying to say that sim players enjoy waiting for 5-10 minutes straight doing absolutetly nothing? Why even play the game then?
Seriously screw off.
Dud you might want to have read the previous post. Not reading it and still acting like you knew what it said is mental.
Have you ever done a startup procedure in DCS? Yes there are people enjoying that level of immersion. If you don’t care why are you even interested in Sim?
Well let’s be honest you aren’t interested in a sim. There is no real reason for you to even entertain a sim thread, because you don’t play it.
Yes WT isn’t DCS, but a degree of immersion is necessary and helicopters need that too. A running engine in range of the battlefield while CAP needs to start it’s engines and get there (which they never will in time) is also dumb game design as well.
Says the casual non sim player in a sim thread… Great
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Then go play DCS. The’re actually aimed at making a realistic simulator, Warthunder is not. If you think Gajin is going to fundementally change how their game is played because 0.5% want this arcadey game to be a DCS clone, then honestly idk what to tell you cause that’s just stupid.
Says the casual * sim player in a sim thread… great.*
You go play AB/RB, you are not playing SB, so why should it cater to you. Again no one wants a DCS clone, just the basic sim features. If you actually read the post you would have known that.
Lol, so i am in the right thread as a sim player. You are not.
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We have basic sim features (advanced for how arcadey warthunder is). There’s 0 need to make people wait 5-10 minutes to make an extremely arcadey mode less realistic.
You are in the wrong thread as a DCS simp. I am not.
That’s not entirely true.
Tanks doesn’t have these features.
When it comes to helos, the time for engine spoool up is ok, but it needs to be done and tge engine shouldn’t be running when sppawning.
WT SB is not extremely arcadey it is quite decent. Compared to sims before DCS it isn’t far off.
Because i gave DCS as an example that people do enjoy that kind of gameplt, i am a DCS simp? You either are delusional or lack reading comprehension.
I prefer WT aircraft over DCS. I want tanks and helos to be on the same level as the single seat aircraft… A level playing field.
If you had bothered to read you would know.
not sure what you mean. The tanks have numerous “realistic” features special for some. Commander view only, no nametags, gunner sight, historical matchmaking. The cannons, driving, maps, minimap, camera control etc is all extremely arcadey for a mode all “simulator”
even the 1 minute it takes is dumb. It makes gameplay worse and simulator is just too arcadey to warrant making people wait for 0 reason. I don’t see you advocating for tanks to spawn with engines off either.
WT simulator shares more in common with World of Warplanes than it does with DCS. Even if Gajin was actually aiming to make a highly detailed simulator (which wasn’t their goal when the made it, and certainly isn’t now that it’s abandoned), they would still let helis spawn with engine on just for the sake of having good gameplay.
Why did you use DCS as an example if you prefer WT? DCS and WT are 2 very different fanbases. Trying to mish-mash the 2 will make something that no one is happy with.
Fast plane with short startup is not level with slow heli with long startup. Just drop that dumb argument about it for being on the “same level”. Also why did you specific “single seat aircraft”?
I would know what? That you’re entire BS argument is just to cover your “wahhh helicopters OP” cope? That I would know you prefer WT over DCS? I know that already which makes you trying to use DCS as an argument even dumber.
That’s what i said, the tanks are trash and need to get on the level of single seat aircraft.
When i am talking about WT being a Simulatior i mean “flight sim” tanks are trash in WT.
I advocate for tanks to have no repairs, start with engine off, realistic gun operation, interior views. Not in this thread since that isn’t about tanks. But you are very mistaken.
But jt makes gameplay worse. Helos can get into firing Position and kill 1-2 tanks before interceptors can arrive, since the interceptors need to start with engine off from the airfield… I already explained that you muppet.
Ok you really seem to have trouble with how examples work… That’s fine.
I mean you followed ULQ to sim threads because you were butthurt about an argument with him in RB, no you don’t know how to stop… It’s pathetic
He is just trolling, there is no point in discussing anything with him.
Well he uses common BS arguments like
“Everyone that wants a bit more realism, wants WT to become DCS”
So i am not sure if it is trolling.
I like that he thinks that i said “helicopter are OP”… Whoch i never said. Fighter jets are a good counter, but that only works if they can get there in time.
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It has been proposed many time to remove the closer heliport and spawn helis with engines off (which takes 30-35s to spool up in WT) and it make sense from game perspective when “tanks” has chance to disperse from the spawn points and irl simulation perspective as well, where any heliport closer then 40-60km to font line would be shelled and destroyed by artillery, PGM or drones.
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Then, the further helipad could get some AA.
Again, seems like WT isn’t the game you’re looking for.
and your solution is to make helicopters impossible to use because planes could just simply fly over and kill the helicopters 8 minutes before they’re even able to takeoff. How is making helicopters unusable
He literally goes to 90% of my posts/replies and screams “THIS GUY JSUT TROLL UGNORE HIM” because he’s angry I made a fool out of him.
There’s a difference between a “bit” more realism, and fundementally changing how the game works. Making people wait 5-10 minutes on a completely unprotected helipad out in the open is just dumb.