unlikely, though it would be helpful… gaijin are fine with making stock grind absolutely ungodly awful at times.
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TEMP stands for:
Tornado
Embodiment
Modification
Programme
It’s to specifically accommodate the TEL (Tornado Ejector-Launcher) so there has been some strengthening of missile body and different motor ignition logic iirc.
A.k.a. Not for Hawk 200.
SuperTEMP is specifically listed in the CTTO Phantom Tactics Manuals, likely meaning that despite the modifications meant for the Tornado, it can still be mounted to other aircraft
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qDKeGlF2bDex
Now, finding a source for the Hawk is probably next to impossible, but they might be compatible.
That being said, Id rather keep Skyflash DFs for the current BR which might need tweaking down to 11.0 in the future, rather than STs and forcing a BR increase
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TEMP does not change any of the FCS wiring and missile body shape/configuration so I don’t see why it cannot be fitted. I also can’t find anything to confirm it was ever fitted to Hawk 200 RDA.
I doubt that it was. Given Britain never put the Hawk 200 into service itself and it remained an export model. Meaning nations likely fitted their own missiles to it rather than the Skyflash SuperTEMP that only Britain and italy fielded (and thats still a maybe for Italy)
But I dont mind, Id rather be 11.0-11.3 with the DFs than 11.7 with the STs
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The inert Skyflash displayed on the Hawk 200 was at least representative of a TEMP
The slots cut in to the missile body for Tornado’s ejectors, is visible
Given that the plane is from the 1990s, there’s no reason to think it would not be a SuperTEMP. But I can’t see in enough detail if it has the other aerodynamic changes
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That plus ASF is based on Supertemp so wouldn’t make any sense for it not to be able to carry Supertemp.
It looks lovely, im just dreading the attempts to grind modules on it with only a couple of aim9Ls and light bombs though.
God I really hope gaijin do it a kindness and give it skyflash stock to make the grind less than grim.
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oooooooo so pretty
Can’t wait for the update now aaaaaaa
(Just need an Indonesian 209 now…)
Japan will probably get both the 208 and 209 whereas Britain is left with the 203
Not necessarily an issue.
Im doubting the 208/209 would really add anything dramatic beyond natively used weapons.
I wouldnt really want to use a Hawk any higher than 11.3 anyway, and we have better aircraft choices for that, like the Harriers.
Hawk 200 is now fitted with LAU-115A (F/A-18 pylon/launcher) for Skyflash carriage.
Pretty sure from previous photos this should be the CRL, like our Sea Harriers have to carry AIM-120B, and Japan’s F-2As have to carry AIM-7M.
Hmmm it’s not even the one Hawk ZH200 flew with
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Also looks like the aim9L got made a rank I module, though its still a painful grind up to skyflash as a rank IV.
At least its something! Hopefully skyflash comes down to a rank III at most.
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Indeed. That one looks more like the launcher Sweden used for Skyflash (Rb 71)
But at what point does balance and historical accuracy cross? There are many situations where already ingame changes have to be made to vehicles for balance, and without a gun, the hawk 200 RDA would be nearly useless. At some point, being a videogame with already many compromises in accuracy, player enjoyment and balance should take some priority over some extremely small historical accuracies. Additionally, if this limitation was know, why choose the RDA variant and not the production version to go into the game. It just seems that leaving out the gun on the RDA will pretty much ruin it, despite many similar cases already being in game.
A game like War Thunder should be fun, and small historical accuracies like this should not ruin a plane. And I understand that the clipping between the fuselage and gunpod would be frustrating, but it’s something that nobody would complain about.
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This limitation was not known. As we said in the dev blog. We had every intention of providing the gunpod to the prototypes. It was only when it came to fitting the pod to the aircraft (one of the last things to be done during an aircrafts creation in game), the discrepancy became clear.
As we have already said, its more than possible other hawks will come to the game. It was only right however we start with the British ones. RDA was also the only possible version to get Skyflash. As none of the production variant operators had that.
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