Have War Thunder Lost its roots? Did modern vehicles ruin this game?

Hi,

in my opinion that not a problem like “vehicles ruin game”. The problem is game are not prepared for modern vehicles. People are not prepared.

Why game are not prepared ? Because u can see, what “magic trick” they need to do with balance vehicles. Also “penetration”/damage system are not prepared for tungstein penetrators from APFSDS shells, which working much different than “standard” AP shells. And on this forum, many times, many ppl show how incompetent that system is. But “devs” have their own way, and this way is called - money.
Why ppl are not prepared ? Because all map topics on that have same conclusion - make smaller map because “cas bois” can’t hit the target when map are bigger. And other “sKiLl iSSuE” players complained, they don’t see enemy after 3 second after spawn. And now, u have a typical TOP BR battle, where u have map 1km x 1km (xDD) where fight tanks like Abrams/Leopard/T-80, where everything is focused on that, who was faster or who has more “skill” to find pixel size point on enemy tank. After die in tank, u go into plane and drop bomb / rocket from max range. And that was “War Thunder” in 2024.

…and that killed WT what i knew from years ago

“Have War Thunder Lost its roots?”

Yes.

“Did modern vehicles ruin this game?”

Yes. Not because they themselves are bad or not fun, but because it has greatly diminished care and concern for older eras on Gaijin’s end.

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Yes it have.

And last 2 years were horrible with this year beign an absolute apogeum of neglection of WWII and early cold war content. Like there are patches where people like me don’t have anything new to play exept for new naval stuff. And imo not adding new early cold war planes (golden age of aviation mind you) or completing WWII trees is a middle finger to the veterans that play this game since beta now.

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Correction: 1 hour matches where everyone was grinding instead of fighting each other.
Today everyone’s focused on fighting each other and less on progression.

Top BR isn’t the focus anymore.

A classic Alvis comment as usual. So we just ignore the modern Chinese Jets, new Aardvaarks, new Harrier, new PUMA, new chinese MBT’s etc.

Once again the Update adds a majority of modern stuff, hardly any WW2, Interwar and Great War content.

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Gaijin focus on modern vehicles because it’s what get them money.
it’s simple as that. Adding a 30k RP, 200k SL new WW2 vehicles don’t bring anything to Gaijin. It’s dev time used for something any player grinds in 5 matches.

The grind is the only content Warthunder has. It has nothing else to offer. Just keep chasing the new 400k RP vehicle and play them in the same stale game mode with garbage maps. They use the grind to hide the fact the game is completely empty and devoid of purpose. It’s soulless.

It’s quite obvious Gaijin doesn’t care. They never cared. They just take the money, underpay 10 or so devs to get out the new vehicles and one or two half broken mechanics and call it a day.

At this point, the only way for the game to evolve would be for a big publisher to buy Gaijin, take a look at the mess and force them to actually work on improving the game itself. Adding new vehicles was never the problem of warthunder. Everything else around them is.

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Why would you presume that? It’s more likely to be adults and older players who spend big not children. I only play WW2 and had pretty much every German WW2 premium they did plus 3 years premium time. Many older players have an interest in WW2.

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You’re an exception. And you’re not bringing any money by playing only WW2.
Top tier sells. Did you see the current price of the F14 IRIAF ? And it keep going up. And they’re absolutely flooding the matchmaking.

How does a child get 70 dollars on a credit card? on a regular basis?

I am one of many thousands of players supposedly so how do you know I am an exception? There is sense in making WW2 popular and adding models for enthusiasts it’s just there isn’t much to add. Gaijin probably make just as much from bushes and crew skills or camos even though you can earn them.The small things add up.

It makes a certain amount of sense to think one death leaving is players with one premium but if that was so destructive then Gaijin would simply give them multi lives like they do with the M51

I have spent more than I should just playing WW2, it’s only the destruction of the maps that really made me stop. For me I see it as a cheap night in sometimes.

Many of the ships are WW2 even WW1

Imho it’s also very much about gameplay. In aircraft battles, props are now FILLED with people that play only to farm SL to fund their modern tank gameplay or to simply grind to top tier. This created a giant skill decrease in the last 3 years (especially noticeable at br 5.3-6.3) and a spam of bombers /attacckers (especially Ju288Cs) that ruined the gameplay quite a bit

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Couldn’t agree more with this

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Yes, the bloody idea of cramming toptier into tiny maps is “redacted”

This is rarely a game of tactics or cunning, but a game of ramming into each other as fast as we can and see who comes out on top.

Gaijin has “redacted” top tier in the most “redacted” horrible way.

Its PERFECT for the tiktok generation with the attention span of a fruit fly.

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Have you even played once in air RB past BR 10.0 ? Heck, past BR 8.3.

There’s entire lobbies which are full of 70$ premium aircraft.

11.3-12.0 is filled to the brim with F4S and Mig23. Hundreds of them.

It’s very naive to think high tier isn’t what get Gaijin this much money. People buy premium time to grind top tier. People straight up convert RP to grind the latest 400k RP aircraft on patch day.

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The OP isn’t on about top tier ,he is on about low to mid tier where cold war vehicles ruin the game for WW2 to such an extent that WW2 does not even exist for this game anymore. .

Didn’t even see that he replied, I have him hidden/muted like so many forum regulars do.

Highly recommend it!

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That’s not what the first post say, first. He’s talking about Gaijin’s insistance to add more modern vehicles over WW2. I was reacting to this.

As for your comment, that’s a freaking dead horse I’m tired of beating. Many nations would simply not be playable at all (including major ones like France and Sweden) if you separated cold war design to WW2.

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No he is saying that era separation was needed and its an opportunity missed and the game is a faceless somewhat childish mess now.

This is a dead horse. Seperation cannot happen at least for tanks.
Jets is a bit more nuanced, because jets generation are way more well defined. But tanks have 1950+ tanks that perform best at WW2 level due to how they are modeled. Case in point: most of the AMX13 chassis vehicles.

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Anything can happen in this game.