Theres not really a problem with other nations having a representation of a foreign vehicle if its unique or if its needed. I’m okay with the KF-41 being in Italy’s tree only because the Puma is just better and that Italy needs better vehicles which so happen to be German. I don’t agree with a lot of the copy-paste problems. Like Italy getting a leopard 2a7HU which is just a variant of the 2a7+ with Hungarian selections would be ridiculous in the current state of the game. I think that the Germany nation should have access to the vast majority of KMW and Rheinmetall developments because they are the German arms industry and all the testing is through German regulation and development. It would be the same for the USA and Russian Federation for example.
The biggest problem the justification of variants to other nations has caused, especially for the leopard 2, is the constant misrepresentation of data, like the Swedish trial data. People wanted to make it seem like the strv 122 is a “Swedish” tank when its not at all domestic, and now we have a 2a7V and a strv122B+ which are two completely contemporary variants coming from KMW and Rheinmetall selections that are totally different for no apparent reason.
Gaijn literally said in a statement that they relied on the Swedish trials being a reliable source, then proceeded to misrepresent coverage data apart from the estimation chart, then went on to claim that the strv 122 has domestic composite when theres no evidence of that. Its especially ridiculous when we acknowledge that the strv 122 is licensed and the hulls and turrets were built by Rheinmetall subsidiary Mak and KMW as well as the license manufacturer in Sweden which is a BAE subsidiary. They misrepresented everything probably in the scope of balance when they didn’t have to; they did it to every major nation except for Sweden (without considering that the leopard 2 is also modeled wrong like every major mbt in game). Its just a ridiculous situation they willingly put themselves in for no reason.
no problemo mucho amigo. just find a similar track armor layout on a tiger under wehrmacht service and make a suggestion to add it to an existing tiger in german tree or a new premium one. what’s the hold up on that? makes me think you have more problem with italy getting a tiger than germany not getting a similar tiger. if you can’t find such armor layout then unfortunate luck, no need to bother others about it.
receipt tiger requires your attention more at the moment, don’t you want a mid production tiger in german tree? see you in the “let’s remove japanese tiger and add it to germany” thread, good lad.
Ok, but none of what you said is relevant to the Hungarian Tiger. I don’t know about all of this top tier stuff and that controversy about what data is accurate or not.
All I am saying is that the Hungarian Tiger is a good addition. It is Italy’s first heavy, a very unique and interesting addition, and something few people knew about. It absolutely was needed, and I think it should have been researchable.
That’s not what I’m saying. I never said that the Hungarian Tiger is somehow entirely Hungarian and has nothing to do with Germany. I’m simply saying the German Tiger shouldn’t get all of the German and Hungarian features/modifications. It should only get the German ones. It would make no sense to stick the Hungarian ones onto the German Tiger as well. He was suggesting for the German Tiger to get the smoke grenades (found on the German Tiger), APCR rounds (found on the German Tiger), and the Hungarian track armour layout (found only on the Hungarian Tiger). That mix and match makes no sense.
with a high tier italian tanker profile icon? i highly doubt. he just hates innovative fakery attached only to a single nation. if nobody got their fantasy, locked in a bunker, bottom of the lake, dismantled just before allies arrived, they had a receipt for it, the crew from this nation trained on it, it was almost ready but got bombed type of tanks, nor should japan. and that’s something the german mains here attacking the hungarian tiger don’t get, if they did they should be breaking down the door of japanese part of the forums in riot.
but they’re german and soviet players so they have no clue how to aim
it’s such an ironic thing to complain about too, Germany has consistently gotten better stuff from other nations, sometimes at lower BRs, than other nations.
“owned it” and not “used it” eh? LOL
again i’m tired of repeating the same paragraph for ppl who get it but wants to save their face and ego so they play less intelligent, like you here comparing shermans and tigers.
even then i agree with you, whoever got a hold of a tiger can have it in their tree, tiger 1 for GB USSR tiger 2 for US SW, but not japan because they never had one.
Premium tiger with 15mm of extra frontal armor? Absolutely unacceptable, the essence of whats wrong with this game (it went to italy)
Premium tiger with 102mm extra frontal armor and an electric transmission, premium tiger 2 with a more powerful engine that was never actually fitted in a tiger 2? No issue tee hee
Japan bought a Tiger, thats the same as owning one, it as crewed by japanese officers, you just really hate the Japanese which is a trend nowadays to hate Japan for no reason.
the only trend going around at the moment is people being illogical and failing to correctly answer 2+2. having a receipt doesn’t mean you have the thing until it’s shipped to you specially when it never got to you in hindsight. i know it’s hard for you and others defending this bad decision of gaijin but facts are stacked against you and simply if japanese tree was added today there wouldn’t be a japanese tiger in it. compared to me you have barely spent more time in japanese vehicles yourself. have whatever flawed logic that helps you sleep at night but that doesn’t make you right. fake receipt tiger defenders deez dayz smh
I’ve seen the same dislike towards the Japanese tree crop up when the old German WW2 prototypes get brought up. The idea that thinner trees have different standards then fully populated trees seems totally foreign to some people. German Mains.
And as someone playing the French 8’s I feel obligated to bring up that the DF105 is still Germany only in response to the complaints about an Italian Tiger.
