Catastrophic balance issues have persisted for over four months and are visibly continuing to worsen, with no official response in sight.
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Sim is pretty dead. I think gaijin is gonna be more focused on its new aces of thunder thingo than trying to fix air sim
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One of 2 things will happen IMO, they will port over the Aces of thunder code to replace War thunders sim so they are not wasting resources on something the are going to replace soon, it’s possible the WT code is such a mess it’s easier to just start fresh to make changes that they want to make. Or they just want to let WT sim die so people will have to start fresh (ie rebuy all their premiums).
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Welcome to nation vs nation.
Also, why are you bringing skill into this?
By the way, nation vs nation makes it easy for skilled players to come together and pick one side to statpad on.
This is not about skilled players in the top bracket lmfao.(Can’t speak for 8br bracket and around, not playing them)
Only LMUR+KH-38 combo ruining sim ground.
Like, someone picking Germany in top bracket is by default a detriment to their team in Sim because the IRIS literally cannot deal with the Mi-28NM and the Flakrak is just as trash against it. And this has nothing to do about skill or not.
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why is China as dominant as russia? I haven’t touched sim in many years so I have no idea… they don’t have any esspecially oppressive CAS like Russia or Japan.
Is it bc China always gets put in the same team as Russia? But if, why don’t other nations have a higher winrate as well?
Would appreciate if sb could post the current sim “teamups” in here.
China is always teamed with Russia in Cold war Matchup. They’re backriding on Russian broken lineup.
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You should read posts before commenting, Cyrus.
They literally cited skill stats.
CAS is weaker in sim than RB due to cockpit restrictions, this makes SPAA stronger.
And NATO has the same OP helicopters.
Except that you can first spawn CAS/helicopter in Sim and immediately overrun a team that way if you spawn enough of them.
First off, Mi-28NM is better than the AH-64E because Gaijin made LMUR stupid OP compared to JAGM. Secondly, Russia AA is better suited to deal with the AH-64E thanks to the Pantsir(more missile to intercept, gun, faster missile to hit the helicopter before it can duck down) than the horrible IRIS/Flakrad combo both unable to deal with the NM.
USSR winrate exploded in Simulator right after the LMUR(23rd september) was added, immediately going from a balanced 51% in August to as high as 73% in October. It has then stayed at 68% in November and December.
Stop with the skill issue bs point just for the sake of being a contrarian.
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@CyrusJacob
You responded to the wrong post, as the posts I made do not contain the arguments you’re trying to refute.
The topic creator is the one citing skill, not I.
So if you have beef with a post claiming skill is involved, that’d be object490.
He’s not. He only talked about balance issues, without specifying what. Balance issues clearly being the Mi-28NM LMUR.
As someone with a spaded Mi-28NM, Z-10ME and AH-64E and lots of 11_2 games in all of them I can tell you that the LMUR is NOT the issue here.
The reason you lose is because players spawn so many Redfor helis at the start… sure, a LMUR is great for killing tanks, but helicopters don’t/shouldn’t care about tanks, they need to focus on killing the SPAA so the planes can kill the tanks. You kill the tanks when the RWR is silent.
China arguably has the better helicopter since the blue arrows lock and firing INSANELY quickly, and you can carry 16 ATGMs… so you’re more likely to get through the SPAA defence. Plus you should really use 12 + 4 TY-90s since planes think they can just fly through the helipad and get an easy gun kill… you can often kill them on the way in or on the way out.
That’s by far not the only problem. There are multiple nations on the NATO side that are actually incapable of dealing with these helicopters.
Germany with IRIS-T and Flakrad(SACLOS but only two ready to fire missiles) can’t do it.
Israel can’t do it at all with the SPYDER+no SACLOS
Japan can’t do it since they have no SACLOS either
So you already have almost half the NATO lineup, including one of the main nation being Germany, without the mean to counter the Mi-28NM and the Z-10ME because Gaijin buffed LDIRCM way beyond reality, both in area protected and efficiency against the IRIS and similar. For the love of God, the Mi-28NM has a bubble protecting the frontal arc even though it has no laser projector there.
Meanwhile, Russia has the best SACLOS AA in the game to counter the helicopters. China is also really decent with the Tor.
It’s just a fact that a primarily German team is bound to lose at the top bracket until Gaijin tunes down LDIRCM.
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This is the closest of what an historical matchmaking would be in War Thunder in my opinion, on which China does have advantage over USSR despite teaming up with USSR all the time at 8_2 line-up and above with an average of 52,64%, a 0,25% difference from Soviet’s 52,39% using the October 2025 data sheet.
Well, realistic battles basically play like CoD because that’s gets you the most players.
So there’s that. Sim is hardly relevant to the game anymore.
We’re at the point where an IL-2 flying tank gets killed by a single 20mm Mineshell to the wing or tail.
So much for flying tank.
Realism or any type of setting is completely out of the window. It’s just vehicles in a big arena, with easy kills and short matches.
Simulator is supposed to be everything that that the current WT isn’t.
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Have you even played GSB before? At top tier Sim, the matches are often shorter than the average RB match. Blue team spawns 5 SPAA, including IR seeker only SPAA which are only useful to intercept munitions. Red team spawns just as many Mi-28NMs, possibly 1 or 2 Su-whatever with 6x Kh-38.
Absolute f*cking hell ensues, massive missile spam, with basically guaranteed loss of the SPAA side. The frantic salvoing of SAMs reminds me of the videos of Tamir interceptors being hopelessly launched against ballistic missiles (echoes of 2025).
LMURs are spammed by the dozen, lofting so high that some radars are unable to detect. Neither are they visible by IR or optically after the motor burns out, and attempts to intercept using missiles is futile the moment it comes out of the loft and directly at you. Blue team replies with JAGMs at red team SPAA, but the effect can only be described as disappointing. Sometimes your entire team just dies, sometimes you survive only to be destroyed when the Su-30 comes back. It’s immediate action in every respect.
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We’re going to be in agreement if he’s a sim player…
Cause the only way jets are strong in sim is if there’s no SPAA to counter it on the map, but that’s equally true in ground RB as well.
If you have to give exceptions for something to do well [such as no SPAA], then the argument is moot.
If you ever played top tier sim 10.3 - 12.3 you would not been saying this.
Red team dominated sim grb by spamming chinese helicopters and planes (mainly su25) launching kh29s and kh38s, at a little higher br you face spam of kh38s by su30sm and su34. Also china that has the ah1w with hellfires against rolands and ir missiles in 10.3 bracket.
Now with the addition of LDIRCM helis its way worst, if you spawn new spaa you are useless against them, and if you spawn saclos spaa you are useless against jets spamming kh38, even worse considering you only have 3 spawn maximum.
For mid tier yeah planes are at a dissadvantage, but theres still some bombers with bomb view and if the pilot its skilled enough they can pull amazing moves against spaa. I saw this once in a match of 2 su-11 diving and farming ground vehicles.
Low tier no idea i dont play it.
Go ahead check my profile, i played sim.
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