Gun handling ? Mobility ??? And you do know that most MBT around that BR can just upper plate the T72 right ? My man just complained about magach not having what he wanted then proceed to ignore that when talking about T72 just because of the autoloader and by god jew main are even worse than US main. I will literally take everything bad that I talk about US main just because of this man alone. My man gonna report everything he dislike , just like the nation irl. God strongest larper
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Calm down woman. It is called dark joke , I am not responsible for your butt being hurt from such insignificant joke, chill out and take a some time off.
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Please let get back on topic. no more insults and politics.
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Uh…new player here but can someone tell my why my T-50 glows red and sings in Russian?
Calling a catastrophic weakspot that’s the main issue of the low WR of the US tanks “sussy” is laughable.
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People make the KH-38 out to be an unstoppable killing machine but any SPAA with smokes or a building to hide behind can just duck the missiles, same with mavs, aasm, spike, pars, etc. etc.; Top tier GRB has hit a point where no single SPAA can really hold back any respectable CAS effort by one side: smart CAS, multiple players, it’s just not enough. Of course that effort is always on the Russian side and it’s always on its adversaries teams where you hear people say “oh i just dont bother” and they bring a lackluster lineup with 1 or 2 vehicles, compounding the problem even worse. I highly suspect players flock to Russian CAS because they know it’s 4-6 easy kills against usually premium tanks with often no SPAA to contest with.
To me it seems as if people have buried their heads in the sand instead of trying to learn. I see the same predictable tactics each time where some guy spawns a SU-34 on 1st death, flies straight in and spams all 6 missiles; over and over I see this same tactic go unopposed. Even though with teamwork or foresight to check airspawn everyone could just smoke and that entire salvo would be invalidated they will typically rack up 4-6 kills. If they had to fight with the SPAA this kind of influence over the game would be drastically more difficult, instead they get to pick easy shots from directly above the battlefield. It boggles the mind how a player can play against such tactics so many times and never consider incorporating counterplay into their gameplay.
I could talk all day about the spawns being too easy to camp, the lack of cover, SPAA troubles such as being easily targeted after spawning but it will not fix the players who would rather leave the game and do nothing with regards to counterplay. This in turn causes even more unbalance than any CAS addition could ever achieve.
Top tier has always been difficult, it’s a hardcore bracket and always has been. I think the new 11.7 premiums are compounding this issue by bringing the wrong people to top tier and I’m glad top tier is becoming 13.0 in GRB because it’s insufferable to play against or with teams that lose over 50%(usually 70-80%) of their players within 5 minutes. I’m against CAS being a simple killstreak power move but only with consideration to the counterplay, which has improved over time especially with laserbombers being moved up in BR and anti-munitions buffs.
Catastrophic? Like the under barrel weakspot? or the lower front plate weakspot? or the ones on the leo 2a5, 2a6, 2a7v where gunner, commander and driver sit right behind each other and die by a shot through the ufp? Or the type 10 as a whole? or most of the leclerc. and the whole merkava? The lower front plate with the ammo carousel of the t90s, t80s and t72s? and their driver port? All of those are “catastophic weakspots”. I called it sussy because of the level of protection that it has in game seems too low wich maybe you didn’t understand supports your pov that something is or might be wrong with it. BUT even if the turret ring will get fixed to what it apparently is, it will be just smaller and has what? 200 mm of armor equivalent? bad news: top tier darts will still go through. You’ll still have enough to complain about after the change. Just maybe adress the producers or designers of the Abrams MBT then.
or do you want it to be buffed to a level better than irl, likee all the other tanks that you have to fight apparently are? See 3bm46 cant pen Leclerc and Type 90 Hull? I’m even giving you some leeway here because you never said “from the front” but i understand it was implied. You kinda dodged the further discussion about your claim of that.
I also don’t really get why you want to downplay the abrams so much? If you don’t like it play another top tier mbt, you might like them more? It’s ok to not like it or think its a shit tank. They are all just a bunch of pixels
If that is “the main issue” how do apparently all those other MBTs not have that issue of “such a bad winrate”? How do the type 10s have a better winrate? the whole tank is a weakspot? You could have picked like 10 other and better reasons for what could be the cause of the US winrate in top tier but you decide for this? or picked it randomly?
You’re actually one of the players that could be mains in one of the strongest nations in ground rb top tier Let’s say Sweden, and you would still find reasons of why the strvs are so bad and muh their gen 1 gunner thermals suck and their dart is not the best so thats clearly the reason why i or the nation i’m chosing to play have a sub 50% or whaterver % winrate. And be assured. It doesnt matter at all what your winrate, K/D or every single other stat in a videogame is. it’s no ones business it won’t change a single thing in your real life. Unless you bring it up on a public forum or complain about it. then you will have to deal with people adressing it
BTW are you flagging my posts so they get hidden because you claimed things that are not true (aka lying) in your answers or because you simply dislike what i have to say to you or is it someone else?
This discussion is so OVER
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Type 90 hull is a beast
Type 10 and TKX are artificially nerfed by gaijin.
This is vs the TCM AGSs M833 which without proper research came to my head fastest as one of the darts on the lower end considering pen of the same br:
If any mbt with 500 mm or more pen shoots at you, trust me, the whole thing is green
Yeah
It shouldn’t be the case though
We have this being very documented as well
Gaijin won’t buff these tanks but imma be working on that
As of rn we will be working on gaijin to buff the following vehicles
Leo’s
T-90M
TKX/(P)
Type 10
Leclerc
Challenger
Etc
Type 90 isn’t a focus rn since that’s not top tier
Issue is and the conclusion for the stats of the Abram’s and Leo
(Abram’s isn’t correct but I’ll stay away from that for now)
The issue is that these tanks (while being almost paper accurate) are only over performing due to gaining nerfing every other vehicle to the ground
By buffing the Leo’s back to their original state (probably above their original state like how they should be)
And by giving every other tank a more fair representation of their IRL counterparts
We can actually make the vehicles more accurate while keeping the game balance.
This goes for all vehicles in game, but we are starting with top tier ground vehicles first.
So the goal rn is to get them to do that. Again, this would mean every vehicle would get a fair representation, however weak points would still be a thing and would virtually unchanged the game in that aspect.
So keep an eye out for suggestions with that
Keep an eye out on videos as well.
I look forward to working with you and other as well on this
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I will love to see that. There’s no point of them not being as accurate and as good as they are irl. and that counts for all tanks. Leclercs, Abrams, Type 10, Challengers and the leos, Which (correct me if i’m wrong) still use the armor package which was on the prototype presented at the swedish trials when???1994? ah just 30 years I’m sure the d-tech armor packages didn’t improve till then. They just thought they would add some weight because who doesnt like a really phat tank right? Like with the ERA packages on the abrams that are basically useless for in game purposes?
Also please get them to finally make the Apaches and the aH1z competitive or fix the frikking hellfire flightpath since in comparison to all other top tier helis they are just vastly outclassed.
I’m just afraid that i can’t be of much help there since I’m no historian for tank stuff I’m just following the game and the forum for quite some time. But i wish you and your fellow researchers the best of luck
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Leos and t90m does not need a buff
To the contrary
To make all vehicles as realistic and as balanced as possible
This means the Leo’s would need to be adjusted as well.
It’s not just a (well let’s fix 1 tank and call it a day) sorta thing. This is an all around sorta deal
U have high hopes i see
Well gl
imma just say its funny you are saying that when you were talking about abrams armor being fine earlier because M1A1HC and up armor is copied from swedish trials despite the armor packages used there being noted as significantly worse than the domestic armor at the time (also was non DU so anyone who says abrams have DU in game is wrong)
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Bro you type alot of nonsense and you call things “sussy” which made me not to waste any energy anymore, i also don’t flag any post or reply at all.
The export package from General Dynamics for the Swedish tank trials failed to exceed 400-500mm of protection against kinetic projectiles for 80% of the turret profile
The M1A1HC in game has over 690mm of KE protection for the bulk of the turret face
what are you even talking about
it didnt? I really dont know where you are getting that because they said it offered 600+mm protection in a 60 degree arc…
No
That was the projections for the Swedish armour package, not the package provided by GD