I can see and your stats show how bad of an AA players you are so I find it weird that you try to school us on what or where is to be done to “prove” your point
We agree on one thing that pantsir is top notch but that is about it.
and btw you have what 40 matches in pantsir? like seriously dude play for a while research all youc an for it get a grip of it and you will see how wrong you were about enemy cas being able to kill you with only minor difficulties.
When did I try to school you ? I literally made my point and that is ? Bro having a reading problem or what ?
So CAS are fair and balance as long as everyone get a Pantsir then ? Top tier the only BR that exist, sure. I guess that all that needed to be said
Russian bias are obviously not real, the bias is just always the ones you’re fighting, that’s how it is in this type of game
Based. Actually good take , damn
There I can share my experience doing CAP in Gripen against those scumbags KH-38 slinger
-They can have altitude advantage while I can’t
-They can do vertical maneuver and more freedom of movement while I only force to stuck with Horizontal maneuver only against them
-And when you need to kill some KH-38 slinger you need to kill it very fast because sht that like six people lives at maximum too slow and they a dead
-which left it with only option that can effectively good against them which is “Air spawn camping them”
see how F up they are?
I can invite any expert that loving saying “Pantsir are fine” to do CAP against Russia and save their teammate I sure that 85-90 percent of those expert can’t even do it.
Well yes taking into account as a whole yes would be balanced for nations outside of russia to have a similar spaa capable of doing what pantsir does in combination with CAS
russians have 2010+ year equippment while usa in comparison has 1990’s stuff…
hellfires miss a lot while irl they don’t is one of multiple things I can write here with 100% confidence.
such as depleted uranium armor or the lack of it in some tanks.
DU rounds for us
r-77-1 modern russian missile (2015ish) where is the american amraam version C oh wait make it 2008 which would make it the D version…
what about meteor missile? which was introduced in 2016…
Like how much more obvious it has to be for you to not deny it?
all of it which i presented here comes to one thing CAS and how unbalanced it is in a favor of one nation vs other nations. and when it comes to SPAA give me a break…
pantsir 2008 produciton
best other spaa is the ITO with 1992 year of production…
I have just the discussion bro
TOP tier Pre 1995 merica GRB is a joke! - Game Discussion / Realistic Battle - War Thunder — official forum
You will find your answer in here most likely.
I deny it cause it doesn’t exist. My lack of Pantsir game simply from myself dislike SPAA gameplay as a whole and itself doesn’t give enough reward and SL gain to justify the SP spawning them in.
My whole reason for not believing in Russian biased exist and Gaijin did not favour Russia simply because they don’t , more like they simply can’t come up with a good balancing and they make a lot of questionable decision , they are bad , I admit. I am not defending them here. I will say again I am all down for all nation to get new SPAA but my point is SPAA have a lot of problem on their own and without major change to CAS as well and other aspect of ground. The situation would more likely stay the same. I did not say that you guys are wrong but bringing my stats in is such a low move
F-15E, F-15I, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, Su-30SM, Su-34, etc having altitude advantage while you can’t is just a matter of them being OP.
Also every single fighter user I know of has never died to Pantsir.
Claiming Pantsir is OP is your post claiming Su-34 suffers.
maybe come up with discussions like this instead of insult people who don’t disagree with you people probably don’t pull that low move like stats shaming
ever try that?
I did not insult you , until you pull the “Russian main”. You saw my stats , you see that top 10 played vehicles are premium , why not call me that , a wallet warrior type stuff ? Using “Russian main” against me just kinda cringe bro, sure prior to that I did say something mean and it wasn’t even that mean , just some light funny stuff but that because you unable to understand my point despite I already wrote it out clearly and then just pull the worst insult possible bro , please , I love you man but if you gonna say something mean put some effort . I will say again tho , I did not make fun of your family
Pantsir is the same OP as F-15E, F-15I
So your post is out here claiming CAS is balanced because Pantsir exists…
You heard it guys, new SPAA isn’t needed, apparently the 20+km CAS we have in-game can die to the 16km range SPAA via magic.
At least you are being fair, unlike some gaslighters here who only side with someone who supports their stance…
My post is about the pantsir being just as op as the f15e. If you say the f15e is op, then the pantsir is also op. It’s very simple.
(F15E is not op)
The F-15E can frag up to 6 MBTs, and potentially an amount of SPAA.
The Pantsir can never frag an F-15E being played within its weapons launch parameters.
The Su-30SM and F-15E are OP no matter what you say; that reality will not change no matter how much you deny that basic fact.
Theoretically it can, but that doesn’t mean it does it consistently.
You mean you’re shooting AGM65D Mavericks from 20+km??? You’re not funny, man. Look less at the stats card, and more at what’s actually happening in the game.
You are not oriented in reality, saying that the f15e is op
And I usually don’t pull stats shaming on any people who don’t agree with me there a lot of people who don’t agree with me, yet I talk to them normally and explain stuff
but I probably did when someone refer me when I explain stuff with normally as crying, I mean I just explain stuff and people start to escalate thing around? I can do that too
And if you want me to say sorry about calling you Russia main? I’m not to sly to say it too
I’m sorry.
Wooops. your f15e is really op…
depend on what SPAA you up against if you up against Pantsir probably not because they will intercept your mav or bombs before they even reach them or their teammate
but against something like ADATS and Flarakrad?
god have mercy
@T4T out here claiming Su-30SM and F-15E aren’t OP and also claiming we’re the ones not oriented in reality.
Also I’m not launching AGMs at all anymore cause perpetual uptiers for at best 3 tank spawns worth of spawn points is objectively bad math.
I’m going for GPS guided munitions now to learn them and see what it’s like.
This will be my top CAS:
Cheaper to spawn, 12.0 in GRB, outside Pantsir range when using glide bombs.
They have over 40km range at 4500 meters going 600kph, I’ll see if I can drop that altitude to get closer to 28km range due to the poor climb rate.
24 glide bombs, at minimum it’ll cause SPAA systems to waste missiles.
I spent over 2 years slinging IR AGMs at tanks, there’s nothing to learn from anymore.
I see you’ve resorted to gaslighting, specifically an attempt to make others feel small, after your posts were called out.
Stats don’t show custom matches.