Wdym that is what it supposed to do
We dont want spaa that can kill aircraft from 15km with no issue(pantsir isnt far from that)
keep looking like this because theres already a big sources coming from this very own WT Forum about the F/A-18s that from other people that knows more than me about its sustain rate
also the sources you provide are blank and there isnt a mention of the sustain rate
you cant really expect to drop secondary sources and gaijin would insta fix it
if u want try bug report it
We also have the 27SK flight manual
Which I won’t post here
But there’s not really any major difference when it comes to performance since it’s the same engines and weight
Either way
Stop talking or if you’re going to please post your sources
That’s an issue of the link then
i cant see what you see then sadly
here
these people in here has its spec run down, you can ask there
No Mig nor Sukhoi has a 0.41 TWR in War Thunder, none.
Su-27 has a TWR of at least 1.2.
Mig has a TWR of at least 1.1.
According to who? Russian propaganda possibly?
No you couldn’t as KH-38 outranges the VT-1s.
Yes they do
Explain why in warthunder (only because compressor stall isn’t modeled)
It can’t literally float off the ground at 30% fuel and clean wings and gain altitude
Which in theory so long as you gain enough airspeed you could probs go vertical or almost completely vertical
However in game it drops airspeed entirely and will stall
This was calculated
In game currently for it to float
You have to have 1 minute of fuel
Not just 30% but 1 minute
If you run the calculations
They either increased the weight
Or they decreased the thrust and it’s not noted
It was noted for the patch notes
But all they stated was they modified the flight model
So again, the flight performance is yet again incorrect
Taking into account
Drag
Parasitic drag
Thrust
Weight
Lift
Aerodynamic efficiency
The numbers ain’t matching chief
They just don’t match for acceleration
Turn rate
Instantaneous turn rate
How fast it climbs
Nothing matches at all
I wouldn’t be so upset ab it normally
I mean gaijin gimping flight performance on a Russian plane?? That’s not anything new.
However
Since I’ve been back playing
The rafale and the typhoon both had gimped flight models because American mains complained. I mean I understood it with the gripen. It has a horrible TWR which translates right back into its flight performance so that’s understandable. However for the both those planes, which have better turning performance to be nerfed so heavily from the get go is absolutely insane.
The icing on the cake was the SM
It can go toe to toe in terms of flight performance to the rafale and the typhoon
This is just the SM variant mind you not the SM2
It doesn’t
For it to only be able to hold itself up and have a 1-1 at ground level with 1 minute of fuel
This means the plane would have to have a .41 TWR at full fuel and no weapons
It gets lower than that with weapons added
You can’t be serious again by saying that the ADATS is better than Pantsir.
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Theoreticly u right but realisticly thos kh38 slingers enters the effective zone of the vt1
Its very rare to see a players that keeps the full distance and overall if u died here and there from su25 it was ok
As i said i berly died to cas and in that time i didnt complain about it at all
but now its every fkng game cuz u have 2 diffrent roles of 6 kh38 slingers like wth gaijin
My guy
Did you learn to pass at least kindergarten?
Or are you literally stuck with learning the materials 5 yr olds use?
I said what I had to say
If you have an issue that’s your own personal issue
Not mine
Nor anyone’s issue
Either make a bug report
Or stfu and deal wit it
I’ll admit it gets annoying at some points
But CAS spam is cancer in general (says what while spamming JAS39 GBU-39’s and grom 2’s from at least 15KM away from the battlefield)
Btw I will state this
No matter what side you’re on
CAS spam us CAS spam
Whether you use AGM’s or KH/38’s there no difference
You’re still spamming CAS at an incompetent team
Damn buddy relax, we just talking about basic stuff which you have no idea nor you know what you’re talking about.
Any sane person can see the huge difference between ADATS and Pantsir, if you actually play the ADATS you would agree but if you don’t then go try it yourself and then say this dumb shit.
Because Gaijin has to cater to the shitty players (I’m talking about the fuckers who said “because American low tier tanks have a weak turret ring, that should mean modern American tanks have a weak turret ring. Oh, btw, I’m going to flood the forums with bull shit about how if the abrams got its accurate turret ring, it would be too OP”)
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Coming from someone whos played the pantsir and ADATS (on a buddies acc because I dont have either of them on my acc yet), the ADATS is 100% worse. You have to GUIDE THE MISSILE YOUR SELF, which means despite it having a 45G overload, its absolutely dog shit.
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It literally does:
The Su-27 flight model is currently entirely correct.
The thrust and mass are currently correct.
Rafale and Typhoon flight models have not been nerfed since introduced to live server.
Su-27 has over 1:1 TWR with full fuel.