any non heli cas, right?
so quickly the community went from crying about ka-52s to throwing the past experience with them into the memory hole
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Honestly. Anything with FnF AGMs will kill you just as easily and I still doubt the ADATS could do much against a switched on Ka-52
Because it’s not relevant
Helis are almost irrelevant
F+F Spike/PARS scrape some relevance and the ADATS fairs about as well as anything else vs AH-60/UHT, and as you say the ADATS is great until you get absolutely smoked by a Kh-38, shame there’s no one playing Su-30/34 these days, surely there’d be complaints if there was :^)
you’ve heard the “ka-52 main’s” opinion on this, and that’s all I can say now. you can either choose to play the adats against helicopters or vice versa—you’ll see how on point I am on this topic. no further reply needed
How I see it, its like this.
Helis make up about 1% of the top tier CAS.
Sure, the ADATS might be more effective than some at killing helis, but its minimal.
The ADATS is useless vs the other 99% of top tier CAS.
Which means that most of the time. Its simply not worth ever spawning in a ADATS because you’ll just be immediately sniped by a KH-38 long ebfore you get a shot off at a KA-52.
Instead, if there is an enemy heli, that hasnt been dealt with by any other SPAA on my team and IF I can afford it, I’ll just bring in the Typhoon and hit it with a Brimstone. Its more effective and I can do more than just shoot down that 1 heli.
As it stands. I simply dont play top tier. Challenger 2, ADATS and Desert Warrior is a useless top tier line-up and I might as well instead just play the Challenger Mk2, Stormer HVM and Desert Warrior, aloing with the Jaguar GR1A if I want to play GRB
if anything the best CAP is france or russia because they have the best ARHs for close-mid range which is what you see in ground RB
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Yeah, and the best radars.
Live long enough to see people complaining about the BMP-2M/Sprut being undertiered. Two big boxy vehicle. One can only snipe and itself isn’t even that great at sniping. The other is another big fat boxy IFV which is not even that fast and need to drop on enemy to kill anything (and the thing is pretty damn loud). No wonder we never get anything done in this game. The 2S38 gonna stay the same , cry about it lmao
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There is an angle you aren’t considering.
The PUMA is trash and shouldn’t be 10.3 in the first place.
What’s your point here ? ALL tank are just “big fat boxy vehicle” so ?
I guess you’re talking about Sprut being only able to snipe and well if to you USSR main having a 600+ pen dart isn’t enough on a light vehicle at this Br and doesn’t make undertiered you’ve a massive coping issue.
Plus yeah Sprut is a light meaning he have to be played as so.
BMP-2M have the best Tandem in game, have a pretty decent dart and is able to lock on air target again as said by other players here he is faster than most light or on par in that specific domain.
2S38 is spammed at top tier and “cry about it” isn’t an argument at all so nothing to respond on that you’ve zero argument.
As your nickname on forum doesn’t correspond to any game profil i’ll assume you’re a one trick USSR main and i’ll advise you to try on some other nation !
Have fun !
[edited to correct a sentence]
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Before anything I would like to say that I am not a “Main”. I don’t spam a single nation or align myself to any nation, I simply move on when im done with one nation and im not reading all of that. Cope seeth and mald, the 2S38 is not gonna move up.
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Sprut is very good but also has very strong downsides like gunhandling of a battleship and it dies to 50 cal. and of course the russian classic of no gun dwpression.
It could move up a little bit, but it’s definitely not op.
And the bmp is overrated af.
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Idk, I’ve been launching Hammers from as far as 25km or so reliably, one even towards a Pantsir that couldn’t shoot back
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I quite enjoy my BMP-2M and i found him pretty solid !
The Sprut have downside but if i make the comparison with CV90-105 and CV90-120 :
CV90-105 is 10.3 more agile indeed but Sprut have the upper hand on the ammunition.
CV90-120 is 11.7 and yet again Sprut ammunition is better while Sprut is sitting at 10.0.
In itself Sprut is a pretty good vehicle and i don’t think him as an OP vehicle if i only look at him and his equipments.
BUT him sitting at 10.0 give him the possibility to be downtiered at 9.0.
Additionally you’ve to think :
- What make a vehicle bad/normal/strong/OP ?
To me a good indicator is the ability of a vehicle to be uptiered and yet be consistent and/or be easy to play.
With his ammunition Sprut is really consistent on top tier and is able to work effectively on top tier.
On this specific topic i only talk about russian vehicle being not at their due Br. BUT vehicle like that to me are indeed in others nation : Begleitpanzer for exemple.
In a nutshell there is a lack of consistency in the BR attribution and some vehicle should be way higher or way under. It’s not an USSR thing BUT it does contribute to the hegemony of the nation. Giving the possibility to be way more difficult to get out of the game to USSR players.
Edit : correction of a repetition in a sentence.
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I love you this guy
Bias ≠ fairness.
Yup, the non Russian teams finally see the Russians be on par at top tier and no surprise it’s spammed.
It’s called fairness.
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All CAS at top tier is OP, but Russian cas is just better because they also have the only AA that has a chance of doing anything.
It’s very unfun and unfair to die to something you can’t counter, and expecting someone to grind an entire air tree is unreasonable.
The last thing russia needed was another CAS plane at top tier.
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at this point UniqueScorpions is a less entertaining AlvisWisla that somehow has worse takes
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@Alpharius11348 As you reply to someone who says more of “my” takes than anyone else.
Ion’s a great dude that I agree with probably the most of the consistent forum posters.
Obviously we’ve had our disagreements, but yeah your insult isn’t what you think it is.
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