Let’s not forget the Vikhir is under preforming in pen. It’s listed as 1000mm RHA on the manufacturer website… in game it was set to 800mm RHA for balance years ago, then they buffed the hellfires from 1000mm RHA → 1200mm RHA.
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you saying this shows an incredible lack of understanding as to the effectiveness of ERA
IRL ERA degrades the penetration instead of just offering a flat armor equivalent how it is modeled in game causes it to significantly overpreform as it completely stops rounds that it should not, even if struck at an optimal angle for the ERA a 250mm pen dart should retain enough penetration to pierce the thin side armor of the tank however in game it cant
the only case where it could be said to be under preforming is against ammo with enough residual pen that it doesnt matter
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no, the in game M1A2 armor values are based the swedish trials export package which was explicitly less effective than the domestic armor and did not even contain DU
it does not, the only hellfires in game are laser guided
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Lmao nice assumption. Yes I know how ERA works. Yes I agree it CAN be odd sometimes, but not usually.
You don’t understand:
- Relict is too new to have a direct counterpart. Same with Monolith.
- People often hit 5-6 plates of ERA and then wonder why they didn’t do mass damage. say, you hit the side bag era of a T-90M, it’s what? 40-60mm? Per plate. You hit 3 plates, then hit the underlying 250mm ERA large plate, which degrades the rounds far more now. So your 628mm pen dart has degraded quite a lot. Now, consider road wheels, sprockets, drive wheels etc, if you hit any of those it can degrade it even more between 20-100mm, then considering angle of all those objects may make the dart go off course slightly. Then the 80mm RHA side armor, which again, will likely be pierced by a 628mm pen round, but if it’s off course, and severely degraded, it may not have enough to go through (depending on the angle) of the 80mm RHA, or it does go through and doesn’t do much damage.
This is the case of most people whom complain.
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I just looked at the report, the actual data is hidden.
Nor do I think the abrams is off. The lower plate continues to eat whole rounds in black holes. Causing 0 damage to occur.
That hasn’t been fixed yet. And it’s been YEARS…
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when they rate the side bags as degrading penetration by 60-70 percent they include the plate underneath, so I dont know what you are talking about here
IIRC the round russia normally uses to test ERA is 3bm42 so you degrade its penetration by that 60-70 percent and it is still enough to pen the side armor
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you are just wrong then, the in game M1A2 lines up pretty much exactly with the data we have from the swedish trials which is known to be significantly worse than the domestic armor package
abrams LFP eats rounds way less often than many other vehicles
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Buddy you’re literally wasting your time and energy arguing with these people, they literally attack the person not the argument which is common with these Russian mains.
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Uh huh… sure….
I remember a time… when literally crew dying in Russian tanks, caused the tank to explode.
So what are you complaining about again?
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That’s what German, USA, and Brit’s do lol.
I’ve only debated his arguments.
Stop lying to people guy.
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These issues are pretty rare and they definitely not happening again with the recent basket addition that literally makes the shells spall more they hit the engine, so now you got a handicapped tank that can’t shoot back nor move around.
Never seen a single one these mains insult other people’s mother and calling him names, it’s Russian mains 99% of the time.
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I didn’t have that issue playing my abrams.
They still eat rounds in the lower plate to this day…
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so you found one clip of it? do you want me to find some of the many hundred clips of t series fuel tanks eating darts
are shooting dead crew members supposed to kill them again?
if you looked at least one the the charges was damaged too which can cause an ammo explosion
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You can bring a footage to back your claim, other than this i didn’t have a single issue disabling an Abrams nor a Leopard after the nerf.
clearly less than 20 games in an abrams this year is a good sample size
The thing is , it happen to every tank , it is gaijin fault. That literally nothing gotta do with russian biased. They unable to code their game to give the playerbase consistent gaming experience across the board. Still don’t understand why Russian biased this Russian biased that. If you really want them to address all of these issue instead of “Here a new rank 8 80$ premium jet/tank , enjoy”. Then you have to vote with your wallet
Not joining the american main on their mid ass crusade against “russian biased”. USSR and US are not the only nation btw
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https://forum.warthunder.com/t/fox-is-still-overpowered/116959/2136
Go read all these posts then :)
(If all the threats weren’t removed)
They also like to get posts talking about their op things shut down.
Here’s a post made in spite:
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will record it the next time I play top tier :)
And where on earth did you get that number? And I’m glad that your measurement is different lol. I’m not playing 1000s of game at top tier. Top tier is trash. It’s CAS heaven no matter what side your on.
do you not like that you cant just lie here and have nobody call you out on it?