Theres ya problem
Nuh uh, no DU. Has been proven :)
Sounds like an inverted CoD campaign lmao
hmm, remind me who has best CAS at every other BR? Its the USA.
And best CAS before KH-38 and Su-34? Also USA
Hmm, no. Source? Or just cope?
Uh, what?
Maybe I should call in the reinforcements!!! I don’t play the funi plane mode at toptier!
Mam , you do know that you could uninstall Warthunder , then turn off your PC and leave the house to hang out with the boy right ? Gaijin not forcing you to waste 8000 hours into their game. I don’t remember the term of service where they forced you to sign demand that you should waste your life , proceed to complain for most of the time wasted and keep playing and spending your money.
I suggest uninstalling and do something better and Im not reading all dat, sorry that happened
Point proven… There is never a good argument, just people attacking other people and bringing anti US sentiment to the forums.
Idk mam , there is nothing I can come up against that slop. You expect me to hear your cry and taste your tears ? Naw , you not the first and will not be the last
They already answer your questions a thousand times.
1 best tanks, artificially nerf: USRR, ammo that doesnt explode, overpeforming ERA, small profile, 3 crews thats seems to only lose one at a time. over 7 different tanks and light tanks that you can bring to battle.
2 Best helis, i mean you can snipe Nato helis from helipad to heli pad come on is that even an argument
3 Best CAS.
US cas is shit, pansier cheat codes intercept just about everything. In a perfect world a f15 will go 1v1 vs one pansier. 90% of the time you fighting 2 pansier one strella and all the uncontested CAS that russia has at any given point on the air.
So NO, US CAS is not a factor. Once you give other nations the same capabilty as pansier to intercept agms with that ease then we can star talking.
But now that I had to repeat myself im goin to get the counter argument of SKILL ISSUES. Becuase non of you are original enoguh.
Popularity has nothing to do with strength of the tech tree. If that was the case Sweden would’ve been the most popular from day one and still tied with USA right now.
USSR would be in the lower half.
Gaijin has never been anti-anyone, let alone anti-American.
USA got the first 14.0 aircraft: F-15C, which is still 13.7.
USA has multiple under-BR’d vehicles including P-51H5NA and potentially M1A1 [the tank closest to Leclerc in cross-analysis].
There are no bug reports that list armor thickness, and DU is on Abrams turrets as proven by looking at M1A1 AIM which has lower turret armor.
USA has over Soviets: Light tanks, MBTs, fighters, and equal in CAS.
Soviets are not OP, and the last OP Soviet vehicle was Mig-23MLD which lasted exactly one major update.
T-90M can’t even take 1 Abrams in War Thunder unless there’s a skill disparity.
I am an American with a bias in favor of American vehicles. I’ve never even crewed a Soviet BMP except the squadron one and gave up spading that.
I play all ten tech trees with all ten completed for air, and 6 completed for ground with the other 4 AT LEAST at BR 8.0.
Yes, there are issues with vehicles in War Thunder, yes that includes Abrams; that fact does not mean the vehicles that have issues with them are noncompetitive or in Abrams case non-meta.
From 2019 - 2022 Abrams players were among the most skilled in the game.
Best tanks go to USA, Germany, Sweden. USSR does not have the best tanks. ERA does not over-perform in War Thunder. Abrams has a similarly small profile.
Best helicopters go to Israel, France, and Italy. USSR and USA do not have the best helis.
Best CAS goes to France, USA, Israel, and USSR with everyone else also tied for 1st and 2nd.
Pantsir has fragged me during CAS runs exactly zero times…
I mean I did but it is not my fault you unable to comprehend what the other person saying. So cope.
Yeah show proof. Sound like skill issue , T series are easy to kill as piss , it is not their fault for Gaijin unable to have stuff consistent. Ammo not exploding , not spalling does happen on western tank as well , why no one talk about that ? Oh wait , because anyone who try to say that , they are Anti-Nato/Anti-US following your boomer ass
Not even close , no FNF= Trash , that all
“US CAS = shit” , yeah not even gonna try , actual worthless. EF/Rafale doesn’t exist clearly.
Why not bring up the air situation ? Why the cherry pick ? It is not cold war anymore , my man still trying to bring real life stuff in , yapping about how it not gonna change the real world geo politic. If you really think that then your argument doesn’t worth anything.
That was the only way moving forward. 29TD is a weapon for 10.7.
*USSR?
Happens to every nation
How so?
Yeah… that’s the benefit of having an autoloader
Actual skill issue.
Kinda vague, any nation can do this
Yeah, the Vikhr which needs you to stay still the entire time and MANUALLY guide the missle in. The apache has fnf Hellfires lol, with similar range
Now they do, yes. But the US, like I said, was dominant before for 4 YEARS.
Nah, its not as good as it seems. Even ask @AlvisWisla.
Isn’t that… the same for every nation?
Such as?
I suppose if Russia dont have a weapon that can be balanced maybe dont add in a fictitious one.
KH-29 are on J-11B for CAS and they do fine
I have played every nation….
I can tell you first hand USA is catered to.
Like have you seen some of the crazy brs the planes, ships, tanks, and helicopters have???
Or Blazer era on an 8.7…
Jets are pretty balanced among themselves, I’d make some changes but nothing massive. The real problem was always the disparity between CAS and AAs, which by the next update will get smaller.
Chinese CAS is woeful, I wouldn’t mind for them to get something better as 29TD at top tier is questionable.
abrams is missing a significant amount of armor as shown here Fwd: Dec/11/2019 M1A2 Abrams Turret Armor - Documented Ground Reports - War Thunder - Official Forum
You are a skill issue. The ERA on Russian tanks underpreforms.
You can kill a T90A on the side with a Turm III (8.3) firing HEAT-FS, hitting every Kontact-5 plate, still go through, hit the ammo, and boom.
Also, Relict is missing about 100mm KE protection, Kontact-5 40mm KE protection.
There has never been a time where I hit Russian ammo unless it’s orange or something, when it doesn’t explode.
Guess what? German ammo has a long history in game of not exploding after taking direct hits and ruining the ammo.
Also:
Yes, Russia developed very advanced helicopters irl, no wonder they’re in game? They’re also missing a lot of weapons they get irl, including IR fire and forget weapons ;)
Russian CAS wasn’t great until the advent of the Su-34/30 coming to the game.
For literal years, the USA owned 90% of the CAS gameplay.
Your tanks are fine, your planes are fine, your ships are honestly broken af.
Sure, you don’t have the best spaa, but you have the best tank destroyer spaa in game, by a very very wide margin.
You have the LAV-AD which is super broken.
You mean M1A2 Sep V3? Which is equal to 800 MM?
Let’s not forget the Vikhir is under preforming in pen. It’s listed as 1000mm RHA on the manufacturer website… in game it was set to 800mm RHA for balance years ago, then they buffed the hellfires from 1000mm RHA → 1200mm RHA.
Also, Relict is missing about 100mm KE protection, Kontact-5 40mm KE protection.
you saying this shows an incredible lack of understanding as to the effectiveness of ERA
IRL ERA degrades the penetration instead of just offering a flat armor equivalent how it is modeled in game causes it to significantly overpreform as it completely stops rounds that it should not, even if struck at an optimal angle for the ERA a 250mm pen dart should retain enough penetration to pierce the thin side armor of the tank however in game it cant
the only case where it could be said to be under preforming is against ammo with enough residual pen that it doesnt matter
no, the in game M1A2 armor values are based the swedish trials export package which was explicitly less effective than the domestic armor and did not even contain DU
The apache has fnf Hellfires lol, with similar range
it does not, the only hellfires in game are laser guided