800-900 sp is just a fancy number that is way lower than you think. Scout farmers make it 200 and you literally start with like 300 after first spawn anyway.
People can just as easily argue that being farmed in the spawn and SPAA not worth spawning is “taking away gameplay”
I never said they did or should. But arguments can be made they do by limiting ordinance options or ammo (ATGM)
And they are horrible at the latter.
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Bro is the CEO of making USA mains look as bad as possible. It’s understandable about the CAS issues but tanks?
@AverageWehraboo Well, I hope one day you stop seeing everyone that isn’t Russian as contrarian.
It’s bad for your mind to think everyone’s out to get you.
They are much better
It also has a 5 second autoloader and 15 degrees of gun depression, and is 2 BR steps lower
If only sandy El Alamein was common for that gun depression. ;)
I don’t think gun depression has ever been notable for BRs; Situational positions sure, but not BRs.
I can’t comment on reload at 8.3ish cause I’ve never seen it used at that fire rate.
It’s still an advantage and like any advantage, it can influence a BR. The SU-122P would probably be a higher BR if it had 15 degrees of depression instead of 2, for example.
It’s invariably the best for guns of the same/similar caliber (at the BR, that is). Even 90mm guns like on the MARS 15 or M48 take longer to load.
True, considering most others have 6.7s reload capped at that BR, having 5s autoloaded reload speed is huge. This alongside stabilization is one of the reasons why 8.0 Vickers is so good.
It’s certainly not.
And a 30mm coaxial
Get the west to do the same effort as the Russians or Suggest more weapons.
Just delete kh and pantsir Russia win 30% I don’t see how their tanks are good compared to the other except a little armor in plus.la Russia has nothing except their kh38 and the pantsir that empties the sky by itself.
Ok, usa main.
Pretty sure prior to those two , US main been crying about literally everything that the Russian have. You will simply crawl back to other stuff to complain about and just to remind you. The Russian WR prior to those two wasn’t sub 50%. Unlike certain nation.
I’m fine with Pantsir, because CAS has gotten so crazy that this thing, despite being astronomically better than what anyone else gets, has come to represent what is now the bare minimum of what’s required. We shouldn’t be removing it, we should be letting everyone else catch up to it.
KH38 on the other hand… how this thing was not only greenlit, but subsequently added to increasingly capable platforms, knowing literally no one can counter it, continues to be one of the most indefensible series of balance decision’s I’ve ever seen in this game.
I’m beyond exhausted of watching Su30/34’s get 4/5/6 frag chains in the feed every minute or two. No singular thing has ever put me off playing top tier like these things do. Ignoring all the ‘my toys vs their toys’ and ‘bias’ arguments I care little for, they’re just the ultimate depiction of fun at the expense of others. Their presence in battles is a negative one. They take more away from gameplay than they add. Truly an awful addition.
KH29s were/are perfectly potent enough. There was zero need for us to end up here.
My favorite part was when Gaijin LITERALLY SAID that CAS was way too strong at top tier, yet continued to add the Su-34 and Su-30 with KH-38MTs.
Oh and the Rafale and Mirage 200D-RMV.
Gaijin essentially admitted that they don’t care about balance between CAS and tanks at top tier anymore.
Yeah and we should do something about the whole CAS situation, not just remove Pantsir this remove KH-38 that. The problem goes so goddamn deep into the GRB. Arguably it is the worst problem out of every problem that exist in GRB
This. But well i guess that’s been the state of top tier ground rb since. idk…years ago. first it was the mig 27s and similar planes from other nations being able to just position in the radar coverage blindspots above the battlefield before the addition of contrails and absolutely cancerous ka50/mi28 rushes before the nerf of the S-13OF unguided rockets that oneshot everything if your team failed to bring aa at the start of the match. Then to battle that introduce contrails and nerf the s-13OF but nerf sam and missile guidance along with it to a more realistic behaviour (which is fine, guiding 8 vikhrs at once with a laser like 8 pearls on a string was hilarious af). Doesnt help much tho if all planes can pull harder and for much longer than their irl counterparts.
Then it’s immune- from stingers su25s and f16s being so fast its basically impossible to hit them with sams before the launch all their agm56d mavericks doing basically what the su30s and su-34s do today.
Just feels like cas has alwas been one step ahead of anything that was in game to battle it from the ground. And the second it got nerfed or adjusted ground vehicles got nerfs along with it. Combine that with less cover, half the maps in top tier being tiny af (like, not one spawn inside a forest, vegetation mostly gone, either in a bowl or just in plain sight more often than not from enemy spawn or its close proximity) makes for the top tier gameplay we have today.
And while for me, more or less balanced cas always was and should be part of ground rb otherwise it would just be -push 500 m to 1 km into one of the three positions to control the map hull or tank down and deny the wole enemy team access to the map and the objectives- at least on open maps.
that disbalance really puts it off, resulting in the -rush one cap and kill a guy or scout two to then wipe the whole map meta. Which unless you manage to deny that to the enemy team makes half the matches in top tier just pointless to play.
The Pantsir never should’ve been added until equal competitive SPAA for other nations was added. The addition of that abomination completely neutered NATO’s ability to run CAS and CAP at top tier, with the addition of the legitimately not existing IRL KH-38 to be used COMPLETELY UNOPPOSED.
Both additions were not only catastrophic for gameplay balance but completely blatant examples of the ongoing Russian Bias in the game. Neither are defensible by any stretch and Gaijin deserves nothing but the strongest condemnation for what they have done.