Then WHERE THE FUCK IS NEW SPAA???
@MrBombastic8
In development.
There’s also SPAA inbound that will have off-field AI radar.
We know it’s in development, there have been multiple announcements and statements.
So now we wait.
they said 2025, so probably gonna wait for the June update unfortunately
ok i wait i calm down now
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Hopefully the SEAD event is them testing out multi-platform SAM Batteries.
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That’d be neat.
You mean the spaa that couldn’t even elvate it’s missile launcher > 60 degrees? Sure I can see how I might be better when the ADATS can get it’s sigh locked onto it but at the time, the tactic was to be directly over the battlefield and the ADATS had no way of countering that. This is also exluding the fact that it got the classification got switched to TD (almost around 3 years ago) which made spawning in the ADATS significantly harder late game.
What made the vikhrs very good wasn’t it’s 8-10km range. It was it’s speed,agility, accuracy, “IOG” and at the time the ability to do longer interval ripple fire and intercept SAMs. That made them practically untouchable. They reduced it’s agility, removed it’s IOG,reduced the window to ripple fire and reduced the effectiveness at shooting down SAMs. It is still one of the best helicopter in game to this day.
If you read my prior responses, I specifically mentioned that it was good because it had the best situational awareness and missiles that can deal with planes flying in a linear motion but more importantly can deal with agms being fired outside the typical spaa range.
Already explained why this is not the case:
Absolutely not. Gaijin knew very well what would happen. The Pantsir was a hard counter to multiple long range launches of mavericks and other slow munitions. No other spaa had this capabilities. The VT1 slingers had terrible situational awareness.
The SM3 was added a year later after the pantsir. That gave them more than enough data to see that it would be a bad idea.
They should’ve gave all nations better spaa that be comparable to the pantsir if not close to it before adding the Kh-38s.
@HondaCivici
Helicopters can’t get above the 60 degree limit.
Vikhrs were ~20+Gs BTW, today they’re more correct because of “the SACLOS nerf”, AKA fixing SACLOS missiles to be more akin to real life.
I’d sensor view all SACLOS missiles with a hard turn to see their average peak Gs in mouse aim, but that’d take ~2 hours.
Mavericks had better flight characteristics when I used them from 2022 throughout 2024, they’ve been screwed at some stage.
And no, Pantsir equivalent SPAA CAS would still be untouchable.
I’m referring to planes not helicopters. The Mig27 take advantage of that glaring weakness
more correct doesn’t mean it’s accurate. The Vikhrs does not spiral (I’m not referring to spinning), making them much more innacrate at longer ranges.
No it wouldn’t. It would force CAS players to do close up pop up attacks as launching slow munitions from long ranges would make them easy to intercept. Against Kh38s it’ll be difficult but it would give all nations extra time to react than what we have today.
The Mig-27 also took into account weaknesses of range being able to bomb at 16km or more.
Pantsir equivalent SPAA would force CAS players up not down.
Pantsir is the 2nd reason I learned to do high altitude CAS, the first was ITO-90M.
Gravity assist on missiles is nice, and launching now 20+ of them from certain platforms causes a wild distraction.
Every single Abrams in WT is very nice to play, with the worst probably being the SEP V2 or regular M1, as the SEP V2 is very heavy and the M1 gets sucked up into 11.3 and 11.7 matches, like every 10.3 and 10.7.
Just because the SEP V2 and the M1 are the worst to play among the Abrams family doesn’t mean they aren’t both good and nice to play, its just that other ones are more fun and competitive.
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That too though Kh-25s were used more often due to it’s speed and accuracy.
Not saying you’re a liar but this rarely happens, especially in today’s environment. Fox 3s is a death sentence hence why you people launching all their munitions when they first spawn and hit the deck. The only time this doesn’t happen is if people don’t see radar pings in the RWR.
When a pantsir is already present, going directly above them is difficult as their radar’s coverage is great. Only when they spawn in after you’re directly above them makes you “invisible”
No it was still a big deal and yea t series
go up to what? get shot down?
if u meant going low and up to fire agm and down then make sense but thats not what you meant here
Up means you can go mach 1.4, and get gravity assist on ordnance.
SPAA missiles also lose A LOT of maneuverability and speed at higher altitudes.
i mean theres a reason why they have altitude limit but it also mean that you would get intercept mid climb, also depend if on the missile itself and the vertical limit
When their armor and total modeling stop being erroneous trash then my opinion will change. Until then, they’re glorified light tanks with none of the benefits and only the downsides. Dogwater.
Cute flag. Doesn’t prove me wrong.
So your answer is “their armor is bad so they’re bad tanks”. How about actually play to the strengths of the Abrams.
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Abrams have always been a jack-of-all-trades. You’re good at everything, but you do not excel at anything. Leopards and Challengers are the best at sniping. Ariete, Japanese Type, and Leclerc are great at flanking. T-series and Chinese tanks are amazing at brawling. American can do all three just fine, and a competent American player (an oxymoron) can best anyone.
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