Grumman F-14D(R) Super Tomcat — Ah Here We Go Again

If added to the game, I think the F-14D(R) should be represented in its 1993-1994 configuration, just before the Navy decided to integrate the LANTIRN targeting pod into the Tomcat fleet in 1995.

Then, in my opinion, the F-14D(R) (1994) should receive the AIM-120 AMRAAM, AGM-88 HARM, and AGM-84 Harpoon as outlined in the DO3 proposal of the Department of Defense Appropriations for Fiscal Year 1992, before the extensive military budget cuts pushed by Dick Cheney took effect.

Navy officials argued that the F-14D Pre-Deployment Update (PDU) was essential, and it consisted of software upgrades that would integrate HARM, Harpoon, and AMRAAM capability into the F-14D. The F-14D PDU was divided into three development phases.

As we know, the DO1 and DO2 phases were completed, and the F-14D received those capabilities in real life. Unfortunately, the DO3 phase was never pursued.

Here’s the full excerpt from the report:

Department of Defence Appropriations for Fiscal Year 1992

However, it is known that the F-14 Tomcat prototype (BuNo 157986), also known as “Number 7,” served as the primary F-14D testbed and successfully validated the carriage of Mk 84 bombs and AGM-88 HARM missiles during the early stages of the F-14D PDU program in 1992. The image below demonstrates the carriage of the AGM-88 HARM. I previously bug-reported it for the premium F-14D, but the developers currently intend for the production F-14D to be unable to carry or employ the AGM-88.

Image of F-14 Number 7

Additionally, the GAO report (NSIAD-95-1), Naval Aviation: F-14 Upgrades Are Not Adequately Justified, published in October 1994, states that the Navy planned to integrate AMRAAM capability into the F-14D once its mission computer software had been updated. Since this report was published in late 1994, the same year the AIM-120B entered service, it is reasonable to conclude that the planned capability would have encompassed both the AIM-120A and AIM-120B.

Naval Aviation: F-14 Upgrades Are Not Adequately Justified (NSIAD-95-12)

To maintain a believable level of historical realism, the in-game F-14D(R) (1994) should not receive the LANTIRN targeting pod or laser-guided bombs. In exchange, it would receive the three weapons planned under the DO3 proposal: the AIM-120 AMRAAM, AGM-84 Harpoon, and AGM-88 HARM. This would make the F-14D(R) more distinct and unique compared to both the TT F-14B and the premium F-14D.

Selective realism on the planned weapons/capabilities will be damned when the game already includes the Yak-141 and the F-14A IRIAF equipped with the R-27R1 with FULL datalink capability despite relying on the analog AWG-9. There are already several other examples in War Thunder.

I have updated the weapon specifications to reflect the planned DO3 weapons package.

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+1 I would be okay with this trade off the lantirn package for AIM-120 AMRAAM, AGM-84 Harpoon, and AGM-88 HARM.

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Here’s a photo of ATM-84A-1C (unarmed training missile) Harpoon mounted on VX-4 F-14 (Does anyone know what BuNo it was?), which could be used as a precedent for the DO3-proposed Harpoon.

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TT F-14D(R) yes.
AIM-120, No.
HARM, No.
Harpoon, No.
JSOW / GBU-32 / CBU (WCMD), No.
AIM-7P, Yes.
AIM-54C+, Yes.
GBU-31(V)4 BLU Penetrator, Yes.
EGBU-24, Yes.

Yeah, very smart policy.
There’s a reason as to why some prototypes and weapons didn’t go into operational use.

As for the plane itself, sure. The more the merrier.

As of what I found right now I keep getting Bureau Number 159830


And this is just a photo I found with the same Modex #44
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its a shrike, although the AGM-45s and AIM-7s look quite similar, on the shrike the rear fins are a little smaller than the forward fins, something you can see in the image VS a AIM-7 where the fins forward and aft are the same size

Scroll down a little bit

The weapon in question on the Glove Pylon is most definitely an AIM-7, probably a 7E or 7E4.
BuNo 161621, VF-111, then VF-154, USS KITTY HAWK, TARPS capable, Last record 04/2001, VF-154 NF100 Tailcode.
Shrike was never operationally carried or tested on the F-14, in any variant.

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Yeah we concluded that already thanks

yeah, saw that after a bit

IMG_8153

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Has anyone else noticed the mirrors? Also aren’t we missing some mfd modes?

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