That’s a different variant of T-62M from what you said in previous message. That one has gen 1 thermal with in built LRF sight.
This is the one I was talking about from 2021. Also has commander’s sight above and 780 HP engine, although not sure on that.
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2.5 second reload and a hesh round that kills when it hits the tracks, mobility that is insane for a gun that stupid, and a rangefinder. the t58 is overpowered and your agenda will not change that
Love how they ignore how T58 turret rotation speed is comparable to top tier tanks rather than tanks of it’s time. Which makes jumping T58 players harder given they basically have top tier turret drives.
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also some of the dumbest volumetric in the entire game. Like, KV-1 levels of stupid
Doesn’t matter much. Most engagements are over in the first shot.
Its HESH was nerfed months ago.
T58 is fine, and your skill issue will not change that.
Only 25°/s base, and 36°/s spaded. There’s far faster at 8.7.
This thing is far more broken than KV-1.
It’s even more broken than 279 ever was.
Which is hilarious given YT is basically what made Gaijin up tier it quite fast yet with T58 and same conditions it took them quite a while to up tier T58 and it’s still undertiered.
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Yeah and if you had a brain you would see 36 as basically 40 that every top tier has. Only on par tanks at same BR are SPAA’s or shitty autocannon vehicles that are nowhere as broken as T58 is.
Calling the Gepards shitty, and at the same time calling the T58 broken is some wild work.
Is Gepard suddenly not an SPAA ? You only prove me right here
And I did not call SPAA’s or Gepard’s shitty.
not at all meaningfully, it’s still overperforming to shit
yeah, most of the time in the t58’s favor because it’s a ridiculous tank.
T58’s are actually very easy to kill if you hit one of the 2 spots with ammo, if you don’t good fucking luck. But why am I even engaging with you, you don’t play non-american 8.x. You have no fucking clue how bad it is. This isn’t an “america popular therefore bad” problem. I think German 8.7 needs the same treatment, this is literally just a “this lineup is disproportionately affecting the matchmaker in a negative way and needs to be addressed” issue.
tbf what made the 279 as ridiculous as it arguably still is was its armor layout, actual hell to shoot at frontally even today in uptiers (unless I’m playing the olifant (my beloved). If it was just the gun it would have been completely fine I think
Heavy tank that has frontal armor when it only faces full downtiers isnt really overpowered, any heavy tank is like that except majority of french ones (because Somua armor in game is fake).
If you have a shell performance of 105mm DM23 it’s hull becomes butter. (and 105 DM23 isnt even that good and starts being common at 8.3-8.7 range, 0.7 lower than the 279)
no but even the conqueror has issues penning it frontally, and yeah the conqueror’s round is finnicky but at the same time it has a stupid amount of pen and volumetric is still screwing it over.
Yoir fault for relying on APDS to not shatter. Exactly the reason I see 8.7-+ non SPAA autocannons as shitty, as they rely on a round type Gaijin nerfed into the ground.
They should have nerfed HESH into the ground, since it should do basically nothing when it meets anything that could classify as spaced armor or just space between actual crew compartment and point of your hit. British themselves proved this upon hitting thin screens of their Centurions and seeing HESH do nothing.
Except they did, it’s literally just the t58 that’s using hesh with any consistent results. HESH is unfuckingusable on literally everything else, much to my chagrin against atgm carriers
Not really, any HESH of comparable stats does the same.
that’s like, 3 vehicles in the game total, and only one of which has the reload to compensate for hesh’s inconsistencies
What do you expect from shitty 105mm HESH with non existant explosive filler? To one shot tanks the same way T58 does to tracks and roadwheels which should not be possible in game to begin with?
I expect 105 and 120mm hesh to overpressure atgm carriers when I hit their launchers? Like regular HE? All I want is for hesh to not be a straight downgrade to HE I’m not asking for the rounds to suddenly become the second coming of APHE
That’s what usually happens unless you consider rare artifacts. Even once managed to oneshot Abrams (M1A1 Clickbait and not when it had armor hole) into the sight with HESH round of OF-40 MTCA (which i spawned accidentally while playing music).