Totally not one of the strongest performing tanks at it’s BR, rivaling even the BMPT when it was at or close it’s prime.
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A second geppie
…and also a rangefinder, 2.5 second reload, and a round that kills literally every vehicle in the game in one shot by hitting the tracks. Even if these vehicles weren’t overpowered (they are), the state of the matchmaker alone would justify doing something to them. I’m not exaggerating how awful 8.x matchmaking is. Queue some british 8.x to see for yourself, it’s REALLY bad.
Ah, but you see, the T-55AMD-1’s APS can counter the T58’s HESH shells, and the UFP composite can stop its HEAT shells. How could it be fair for the poor T58 to be the same BR as the T-55AMD-1?
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Most engagements end in the first shot.
That was only true when they were first added.
So basically, because America is popular, all American vehicles should be nerfed to the point of unuseablilty so it’s not popular anymore?
It’s still true, much to the detriment of non-american 8.x
Top 10 bad faith interpretations of all time. Have you, at any point in time, EVER, played non-american 8.x?
A someone who plays the Marksman occasionally as part of my highest BR lineup, if you get shot in the turret at all your guns are fucked and you’re probably fucked. The chieftain marksman is NOT a gepard, it is slow. It should be tiered with the gepard because they’re extremely similar vehicles otherwise, but it is just flat out worse than the geppie. (that said shooting the geppie in the turret with the conqueror’s apds tends to just kill it outright so that’s another point to conqueror nation)
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Unpopular opinion. But The M1128 Should be at 11.0, but with a 6.2 second autoloader. Because it’s super unfair that it can hide behind a hills and be effectively immortal to every thing except HE shells. Which are slow and the M1128 can just dodge the round. In addition to that it is highly resistant to HMGs.
And this just shows that you haven’t played the M1128.
There are a bunch of things it does well or great, but being nimble and good at dodging quickly is not one of them lol.
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Turm 3, XM246, T58, Gepard, all to 9.3.
This area of the matchmaker is completely fucked because a bunch of overpowered bullshit is centered here in 2 of the big 3 TTs and I’m saying put all of these to 9.3 so there’s at least ONE place in the 8.x BR bracket that doesn’t have to see them at all. If it were up to me I’d put the T58 and Turm 3 to the highest BR possible as punishment to their players but I’m being reasonable here.
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Okay? but having 1 second to dodge a shell that requires to hit a tiny tiny shield, that half the time in my experience doesn’t overpressure does seam like an op vehicle. Wiesel 1A2 for example fires missiles that you can shoot down with: smoke, mg or just hide behind cover. And it doesn’t have armor and random stuff that eats spall. In addition you can ammo rack it’s barrel.
Geopard and turm to 9.3? Have you played the geopard? It can be crippled by a HMG! Geopard to 8.7 okay, Turm at it’s current br is fine. Unlike the XM and T58 which I fully support. Though every 35 spaa should be raised by 0.3 and XM246 by 0.6.
Yes. Put 2 of the things that make people play 8.7 germany to a higher BR. The frailty of SPAAs does not matter when they’re as stupid as the gepard. The literal only reason the marksman isn’t nearly as dumb as the gepard is because it’s fucking slow.
then put the XM246 to 10.0 then :)
I wouldn’t be opposed to this I’m just trying to keep my BR increases reasonable.
All Gepards should be 9.0 minimum, with Leo2 Marksman and Za-35 at 9.3.
With XM246 being at 9.7.
None of this is ever happening. You two need realistic ideas.
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XM246 is a sidegrade to the Gepard. Tbh, It’s only actually better than the Chieftan Marksman.
Either give M1128 a 6.0s reload and move it up to 10.7 or keep it at 10.3 / move it down to 10.0. It can’t have two buffs.
I’d say it’s good at 10.3 now (unlike before) but the gun depression, reverse speed, and reload still kinda makes it difficult to play well on a lot of maps. I’d rather take the CV90105 in most cases as a result.
From my experience, Turm III is fine at 8.7. Maybe 9.0 but 9.3 is unwarranted.
All the 35mm SPAAs shouldn’t move up in BR. They should just have their APHE rounds nerfed so that they can’t trapshot / kill everything through cupolas.
T58 can easily go to 9.0 but I’m not sure about 9.3. In my opinion, they should just nerf its first-stage ammo replenishment and move it to 9.0.