I honestly think that T-20 going to 6.7 is fine. This is because it’s ridiculously fast (I’m my opinion). I was in a mach and a minute after the start this T-20 managed to get into a hideous sniping spot which is useless like 2 min. into battle as it can be easily defended. But because he got there so quickly he basically camped my whole entire team.
Sure, if you use boosters for each battle played you can reduce the number of unspaded battls by a lot.
BUT
Your ratio of unspaded battles played vs spaded battles played will still be higher for the KV due to the much greater number of battles you played in the VK.
You do understand I spaded the VK long ago right?
Like you must be pretending to be this naive.
Read it again.
And it’s great you aren’t resorting to a “shallow method for discussion” like you lectured to rainy2000 further up in the thread… Oh… wait…
Because I gave you the benefit of the doubt?
And you continue to prove you don’t know what you’re talking about?
(Let’s be honest you were trying to do a low blow with the ground assault comment anyways)
Totally different concepts but sure. If that’s how you see it.
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Again… I literally just spaded it. But it doesn’t feel any different from when it was stock. Its modifications made little difference in performance.
Rather, it was what br it was commonly facing.
5.7 and up it was pretty useless.
(About 50% of matches were 5.7 btw, it was constant uptiers vs the Vk30 which was mostly downtiers)
5.3 and below it was pretty decent.
Vk30 easy preformed well at 6.0 because it has a GREAT gun, and VERY GOOD mobility.
benefit of what doubt?
My post clearly stated that your KV has not been spaded as long as the VK.
So the VK, with more battles fully spaded (and more battles overall) would be expected to perform better.
You reading anything else into that is an issue on your end.
The benefit of the doubt you knew. That RP gains aren’t measured accurately. When you tried to say it was from ground assault or insinuate the like.
Welcome to the internet, and perspective.
Well no, if a vehicle is supposed to be “just as good if not better” it should preform much better then. It didn’t. Could be luck of the draw or so on.
But at the end of the day the VK preforms far better.
Just as if I didn’t cqc with the VK I’d probably do much better.
Btw, this is your stats.
Odd that your in an RB post… when you mainly play arcade… but anyways your stats align with what I’ve said, the VK preforms better.
I don’t really care that the VK is 5.0, but it does mean that vehicles like the Comet and AC IV should also be 5.0 as they’re very comparable.
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This I very much agree with
The VK is very equal to the comet and AC and both should be 5.3
comet sure, but the AC 4 is very much better than the manpanther and is on par with the panther d. after all it has 2.5 times the reverse speed, nearly the same top speed, while having a nearly 2 second faster reload and 3 times the horizontal traverse speeds.
and the only reason the AC 4 isnt better than the panther d in EVERY regard is solely because the thing has an exposed driver hatch, and its inaccurate and should be a recessed driver’s hatch making it mostly better than the panther d.
This is definitely a hot take but I think there are only 2 appropriately BR’d KV-1s, the L-11 and the S. Everything else is undertiered. In non-downtiers? Sure, they’re fine. But play a downtier against them and see how genuinely egregious they are to shoot at. It’s like if everything people said about the Churchill VII was actually true except the KV has the mobility to do other things.
And while I’m at it, Churchill VII back to 4.7. No the thing never needed to go up. It was just Very Good. Anyone who called it braindead and was “disgusted” at how good it was only played it on its good maps. There are maybe, MAYBE, three maps in the map pool where the Churchill VII was overpowered, on everything else it ranged from “pretty solid” to “do not spawn this you are playing on volokolamsk”.
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Eh?
- AC IV has similar hull armour and similar turret armour, but 1 less crew and no smoke.
- Mobility is similar VK has a higher power-to-weight and top speed, but the AC IV has better reverse.
- Even in firepower, sure, the AC IV has better depression/reload/turret traverse but the VK has APHE which is massively better. As proven by how much British winrates jumped when the QF 75mm finally got APHE.
the Panther’s APHE is like, fake APHE. there’s no filler in that which is why it’s such a good AT gun. Also the 17 pounder having sabot, despite it being early sabot, still evens that out because you get your high damage solid shot and your even faster sabot round for trickier shots (i.e. panther mantlet/tiger 2 turret face)
The AC IV doesn’t have sabot.
never mind
17 pounder still clears tho FUCK the panther
Yeah, so? The point is they’re equivalent at 5.0, also, the Panthers 75mm has the same explosive mass as the Panzer IV. Any kind of APHE is better than no APHE.
Did you know that soviet reserve tier shrapnel shells have more explosive filler than the panther/panzer 4’s APHE?
ya no, the AC 4 ON PAPER has similar hull armour, in actuality the angle of the plate on the ac4 is 62~66 degrees, while the panther d is 55, meaning the more armoured panther d has around 140mm vs the ac4’s ~120, this is before we angle (something you can do) which bumps up the front plate to 130mm.
while the vk has a higher top speed and hp/t, its 7km and .5. theyre so small its literally pointless and the only noticeable change will be the transmission, which we dont have any real way of tracking so we cant really argue about it.
finally the panthers aphe is 30grams of tnt, the shots that will one tap with the panther, will also 90% of the time will also be a one shot with the ac4, now the reason why the QF 75 got a boost with aphe, was solely because the solid shot for those guns dont have that great of post pen damage, something the 17 pounder doenst lack.
Lol. The VK’s is around 120mm as well. What are you on about?
You’re just proving that the Panther D is superior.
Actually this was really only a problem for the Churchill. The Valentine was facing much squishier things and the Cromwell had the mobility to get side shots. Don’t get me wrong, the winrate boost to APHE is definitely real, but the postpen was really only an issue with 1 of the tanks using the british 75