Congrats on doing well at a low br.
It’s scummy but it works well.
They have different strengths and playstyle.
Ironically, you can’t simply mindlessly rush enemies with the KV-85 unless you already know where they are, if they are looking at you, and what gun they have.
Needless to say, any player with some experience facing the VK.3002 (or just a player with a ~5.3 / 5.7 gun) makes the rushing strat risky at best and suicidal at worst.
Maybe you should? 🤷
Though if I’m being honest, after they buffed their LFP and lowered their BRs back down to 6.0 and 6.3 respectively, using the IS-2 strat with them isn’t as necessary as it used to be. Though the KV-85 definitely does need to do it in quite a few situations, and definitely can because of the great reverse speed.
Both are good enough at 5.0, but BR-365 is objectively better in every way other than flat pen (but 135mm of flat pen is good enough at 5.0 anyways).
No, I definitely saw some recklessness. Pushing out in the open is not ideal.
The players you accused of cheating in Fields of Normandy weren’t cheating – I checked their POV.
Maybe it’s because it wasn’t spaded? I wouldn’t say its that slow. Top speed is adequate, reverse speed is great. HP/Tonne is actually just as good (or bad depending on your frame of reference) as the KV-1 (ZiS-5).
I don’t have any matches in the 2A7V / 2A7 HU.
I still know they are some of the best tanks in War Thunder top tier (because I’ve played against them, seen others play them, and analyzed their capabilities and performance). Same thing can be said with the Vk.3002.
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And yet, I’ve managed to go beyond the Vk.3002 K/D with the KV-85, and even more from my friend.
The skill floor may be lower on the VK, but the skill ceiling is much higher with the KV-85 it seems.
If you don’t see why you not playing them but talking about them is a problem, then I cannot help you.
So:
defends cheating
says playing the scummy way is okay.
Have you looked at my gameplay? I don’t spawn camp until it’s the last moments of the game.
I don’t do all the things that bad players need to abuse to be good at the game. I play fair and with honor.
Secondly, you need to look at the match before that. The one guy has a SIXTH SENSE cheat on, it was obscenely obvious.
The moment myself / my buddy saw him he snapped to us across the entire map almost and fired.
confirms you have to play scummy to do good in a vehicle
Which means it’s not as good unless you do a very specific thing.
The Vk30 (which you haven’t played) doesn’t require you do certain things.
Lastly, I had all the mobility upgrades and even experted it. It’s not a drag racer.
Trying to goad me is a very shallow method for discussion.
I’d be willing to bet most of your “performance” stemmed from when it was a 4.3 or 4.7 whichever br it started as.
VK
GP = 69
WR = 62.3
D = 65
GK = 145 = 2.1/game 2.23/death
KV
GP = 16
WR = 56.3
D = 20
GK = 36 = 2.25/game 1.8/game
You have played VK ~ 4x as much as the KV. Why would you expect to have the same proficiency with the KV as you do the VK?
And… I notice your kills-per-game for KV is higher 2.25 vs 2.1
I really don’t see how you can come to that conclusion based on your limited experiment.
I know that direct experience helps form a better opinion. That doesn’t mean you can’t form a good opinion without it.
No? Where am I defending cheating.
Scummy is an arbitrary term. You could argue having to shoot barrels / tracks with the Jumbo 75 is scummy, but most good players know that you need to do that in some cases to do well. Same can be said with using the engine to block APHE rounds. It’s not an unfamiliar concept to a lot of experienced players around this BR.
Good for you I guess?
I’d rather stay alive and keep killing.
I will when I get the time, but the Fields of Normandy match wasn’t anything suspicious.
Even without using the engine as armour, it still performs well. You should be able to side-scrape and kill most things before they can get a good shot on you anyways… unlike with the Vk.3002, where you often need to bet on the enemy missing the turret before you can get your gun on target.
But is rather limited in how well you can perform in it, especially against more competent players. There’s a very good reason why you’d rarely see them in 5.0 8v8s, but plenty of KV-85s, KV-1Cs, and M4A1 (76)s.
It’s no medium tank, but it’s still pretty good for what it is.
My kills per game are higher as I had 3 full downtiers where I just slayed.
Why do I expect to do just as good if not better in the Kv-85 because:
- Higher level crew in the Kv-85 a level 150 crew, experted too. (Instantly by the way)
- I’m a Russian “main” as many say. So I have a ton of play time in said nation.
Meanwhile my crew in the VK is I believe level 68 and was not experted until recently. (Past 15 games)
Maybe part of it at 4.7, but I remember that a good portion of it was when it was 5.0 (before the reload buff too).
I mean, I’ll play 10 matches in it and we’ll see how I’ll do.
Yeah lol they were. You should’ve watched the match before that.
So playing the objective and trying to win the match for the typically awful teams is bad now?
Again, spawn camping is a very dirty tactic. I will refrain from it as much as possible because it’s just toxic.
We, should play 10 matches. I want to see how you play. Exactly what you do. Clearly I must be missing something, so you should set the example. Like you said earlier:
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I’m not saying that. And, in fact, I fully support this. However, there’s a difference between going straight for it while the enemy team is still strong (and thus having to deal with all their might), and going for the capture point after you have whittled them down enough.
I agree, and I don’t do it until near the end of the match / if we have all three capture points.
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But if you’ve watched my gameplay I rarely go straight for the cap.
Yeah we can do that. I will be able to around the beginning of September.
Maybe I haven’t watched enough of your replays but I remember seeing you go straight into the capture point on the second battle of el Alamein match and then immediately dying to a Tiger H1 as a result.
Could’ve been a sound bug that I didn’t hear him, or I merely didn’t see him.
I clearly thought it was safe enough if that was the case.
Or my dog could’ve distracted me.
I’m not going to win every engagement/ battle.
There’s so many variables to always consider.
I mean, yeah that’s possible, and yes, nobody can realistically win every battle / engagement (especially with how much volumetric BS that can occur). Though not immediately letting the enemy know of your location by capturing the point would definitely help 😅
With your average RP of 557 it would take you 44 battles to fully spade it (24,700 RP). So I guess it’s not spaded yet? (unless you did a lot of research in Assault…)
With the VK your avg RP is similar at 585 - so that puts it at 42 battles to fully spade.
Since you had 27 battles (or more) with a fully spaded VK but 0 battles with a fully spaded KV, it appears you are comparing apples to oranges.
Um what?
You do realize it doesn’t take into account boosters right?
Like that was the least logical thing I’ve heard in awhile.
Especially trying to throw in the “ground assualt” part was cute.
Queue Russian track noise:
(Can be heard 52 million km away, especially the bmd 4 and similar light tanks)
