I remember when the IS-2 was killable by .50 cals by shooting the weld in the hull’s UFP.
I have one shot a Conquer in test drive with the M-24 50cal
Just because you overglaze it doesn’t mean it’s a game changer. 90% of fights end before the .50 even gets a chance to fire.
You know what, you’re right. Gun depression is the only metric that matters the the Sturer should be 14.0.
No effect on gameplay.
Do you play warthunder?
At 3.7 I’d agree with you, but we’re talking about a 5.3.
I wish my experience with 50 cals was this, they’re so inconsistent for me :(
That being said I once straight up killed a sherman with the firefly’s 50 cal. I genuinely don’t know how it penned his tank but it somehow did
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Statshark says otherwise.
it doesn’t even outperform the German vehicles of the same rank, let alone the rest of the nations
Filter by rank=3 - TT - tanks, and sort by SL per game. See how far down you have to scroll.
An (abbreviated list) of the vehicles that out-earn the VK are Comet, Chi-To-Late, M36GMC, Nashorn, M6A1, M4A1 (76), 8.8 cm Flak 37 and PT-76B
This isn’t exactly fair to include right now
Most TT tanks preform poorly compare to event / premiums.
Why?
Same rank, same type (medium), similar BR.
VK 3002 is a TT vehicle. I used TT vehicles for comparison.
Not sure what the problem is…
Wait - are we discussing different vehicles?
Ho-Ri fomo. I think including low tier japanese tanks in any stats is putting a possible outlier in your dataset until september.
Opinion invalidated.
me when the stat website has the stats for every vehicle in the game
Global stats are a terrible argument for vehicle balancing. Global stats are why the EBR (1951) is at 5.3
I wasn’t sure why you were doing SL a game tbh.
But soon I’ll play the m4a1 once more as well as the KV-85 and see if I do just as well. I should, given a few of you are saying they’re better.
I mean, wouldn’t it have been the worst regardless of whether or not the Tiger 2 P went down to 6.3 or not?
Also, it’s more like the Tiger II P should have never went back down to 6.3 rather than the T-34-100 necessarily having to be moved down.
Also, I’d honestly take the T-34-100 over the IS-2s and T-44-122 in most occasions to be honest with you.
Well, 11.5s is certainly not great, but it’s definitely better than the IS-2’s 20.8s reload, T34’s 14.9s reload, and many of the 5.7 - 6.3 SPH reloads, and it at least penetrates and one-shots most things (because of its 100g of TNT).
After they added solid-shot to a lot of APHE rounds after detonating, the engine strat against APHE doesn’t work nearly as well as it used to, but it’s still viable if you angle well:
It’s as good as (if not better than) most mediums at this BR.
T25 has better top speed and reverse speed but way worse acceleration to due its abysmal transmission and HP/Ton:
It means that it may only reach ~40km/h if it’s lucky.
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M4/T26 (another 6.0/6.3 medium) has even worse mobility across the whole board:
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All the 6.0 Panthers have similar mobility as each other, where they have worse top speed than the T-34-100, unusable reverse speed, and worse acceleration:
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The Centurion Mk.1 has a much worse top speed, worse acceleration, but much more usable reverse speed:
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Finally, there’s the Charioteer Mk VII, with much better acceleration and top speed, but much worse reverse speed (Though at least it gets good neutral steering):
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As for the other 6.0 - 6.3 mediums, the T20’s and T-34-85 (STP)'s mobility are overall better:
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The T-44-122 and T-44 (FM) also have overall better acceleration:
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As well as the ST-A1 and ST-A2, both sharing overall better mobility over the T-34-100, with slightly worse top speed but much better reverse speed and slightly better acceleration:
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So its mobility is better than every heavy, a good number of TDs (especially if we’re excluding SPHs), and half of the medium tanks at the 6.0 - 6.3 range.
It’s definitely not great, but it’s definitely not unusable, nor the worst amongst its class.
It’s heavier by 1 tonne.
They still have very similar acceleration, which is great unless you’re calling the T-34-85’s acceleration bad.
Yes, this is one of the drawbacks of the T-34-100. It makes it so that it’s less survivable against shots through the turret than the T-34-85. Though a clean shot through the T-34-85’s turret can often kill all of its tightly-packed crew too, or detonate its turret bustle ammo (which always exists unless you’re out of ammo).
Not really hard to be worse than all its [medium tank] counterparts when the only medium tank counterparts are some of the most META in the entire game (I’m talking specifically about the T20 and T-34-85 (STP)).
Not really. Again, I’d rather take the M4A1 (76) and KV-85 over the VK.3002 on most maps.
It’s good at 5.0. I’m not saying it should go down to 4.7. I’m also not saying it should go up to 5.3.
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So it’s very useful in 10% of engagements? That’s certainly not bad, especially since the VK 3002 doesn’t have it.
This is what we call a strawmans argument.
The extra 2 degrees certainly matter in various powerpositions across the various maps. Acting as though gun depression is the only relevant metric is you being facetious.
Just because you say it has no effect, doesn’t magically make it so.
Faster reload = Faster reload. Simple as, and it will have an effect because it’s literally a faster reload.
If you’re going to dismiss any of the M36’s advantages because they don’t suit your narrative, then there’s no point in any discussion because you’re not interested in a discussion, you just want to force your opinion on others regardless of what the evidence and facts point to.
680 ground kills with the M36, plenty of 10+ kill matches because the thing is under BR’d:
Oh, and this clip reminds me: Another useful thing about the 50. cal is that you can clear obstacles with it, 7.92mm cannot break walls, certain types of folliage, etc.
The M36 used to be 6.3 and it did just fine even at that BR.
In fact, thank you for reminding me, it’s brought me back to this:
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I would say 5.7 for the American / Chinese M36s and keeping the American / French M36B2s at 5.7 would be fair after the reload buff.
The Japanese and Italian M36s could go to 6.0 after the reload buff.
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Chi-To / Ch-To-Late at BR=4.7 are the same “tier” as the VK. One step removed.
It’s a universal comparison.
Some tanks might not get kills as easily, but lots of assists due to APDS, HEAT, etc. Stats mostly do not reflect this. But SL earnings take into account scoring - which includes assists and caps.
Not me saying they are better. Pretty equal IMO, but each can be more useful depending on the map.
Again I think a simple reload speed buff for the T-34-100 is plenty good enough.
11.5 → 9.8 seconds aced
I actually got my first nuke in the M36 last night. lol
1st for that tank.
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